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MYTHIC: The Story Of Gods And Men (Canceled)

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Re: MYTHIC: The Story Of Gods And Men (Canceled)

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Project has already been taken down by creator, and all of the companies information is being deleted from the internet, yet they still managed to get nearly $5,000 in the few hours it was up, which is quite worrying. Points of evidence - God character art is from http://pgwebdesign.net/blog/35-mythological-art-masterpieces... - Backgrounds are from http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=211755 and http://psd.…

How were the stolen images tracked down? Through services like TinEye?

Re: MYTHIC: The Story Of Gods And Men (Canceled)

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Bostinno also recently reported another project that simply failed to deliver: http://bostinno.com/2012/04/25/kickstarters-dark-side/ Could this create a market for 'verified' kickstarter projects? Kickstarter as an organization states they dont verify, but as they grow the need will also grow. I'm thinking this could be an optional feature that everyone would be aware of (IE: grayed out badge when not invoked). For…

Ugh. No. Every damn news site on the planet misrepresented the Star Command money issue. First, Star Command didn't fail to deliver. It simply hasn't delivered yet. The game was being shown at a trade show last month. It's on it's way. This is not a case of a cancelled project or someone running off with the money. Second, the article's statement that only 4k went to the game is an outright lie. They clearly state th…

Yeah, the way their funds evaporated into nothing after delivering all those t-shirts and whatnot was large in my mind this past week as I worked out the rewards for the comic book I just started the campaign for. I'm basically not offering anything physical beyond the book - more money gets you sponsor credit in the back.

Re: MYTHIC: The Story Of Gods And Men (Canceled)

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Bostinno also recently reported another project that simply failed to deliver: http://bostinno.com/2012/04/25/kickstarters-dark-side/ Could this create a market for 'verified' kickstarter projects? Kickstarter as an organization states they dont verify, but as they grow the need will also grow. I'm thinking this could be an optional feature that everyone would be aware of (IE: grayed out badge when not invoked). For…

Ugh. No. Every damn news site on the planet misrepresented the Star Command money issue. First, Star Command didn't fail to deliver. It simply hasn't delivered yet. The game was being shown at a trade show last month. It's on it's way. This is not a case of a cancelled project or someone running off with the money. Second, the article's statement that only 4k went to the game is an outright lie. They clearly state th…

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Re: MYTHIC: The Story Of Gods And Men (Canceled)

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I've been wondering for a while how long it would take for mass fake projects being created on kickstarter/indiegogo once these sites got more widely known. This project uses stolen pictures, but one could easily mock up random 3D scenes, make a cool video and walk away with 100k for two days work

Anywhere there's money flowing, scammers will appear... clearly, this sort of problem is going to be a growing pain for Kickstarter and the whole crowd-funding idea. It's certainly not insurmountable, but it's an issue that isn't well handled/prevented now, as far as I see it.

Re: MYTHIC: The Story Of Gods And Men (Canceled)

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Was this a real attempt at a scam? Or just an attempt to get some news coverage - like a prank? Like the first real scam on AirBNB someone wants to be the project everyone always talks about with online fundraising.

When you start collecting money from people a prank becomes a scam.

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Re: MYTHIC: The Story Of Gods And Men (Canceled)

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post #4

I've been wondering for a while how long it would take for mass fake projects being created on kickstarter/indiegogo once these sites got more widely known. This project uses stolen pictures, but one could easily mock up random 3D scenes, make a cool video and walk away with 100k for two days work

It would have taken a lot more than some 3D mock ups to make this project believable. First he'd have to fix a bunch of stupid mistakes like leaving Activation/Blizzard (they are two separate groups that are just own by the same company), and claiming to be working with Disney (what happens when someone at Disney asks who this idiot claiming to be associated with them is.) Probably, most damming though was his claim to already have funding for a AAA title but still needing an extra $80K overall the numbers just don't add up. This is a really tight spot if he asks for too much money it is more likely funding will fail or that people will investigate his claims. Too little money and he doesn't sound credible.

Second the game concept was incredibly vague about a game that was supposedly already in production. Making big vague promises should always be a warning sign of scam. Conversely when Double Fine did their campaign it was okay that gave gave no details about the game because, 1 it hadn't been started yet, 2 they actually explicitly stated that the game might suck. Coming up with a real good detailed game concept is actually pretty hard.

Next the studio and team wer never shown. Instead you see one young guy sitting at a desk in a poorly lit room with no windows, and a laptop running some stupid animation on it. In other videos we walked though real offices with real people with names, and real workstations that actually look like they are in use.

These last two are going to be very difficult to fake as they require a reputation, accomplices, and money, which scam artists tend to lack. Not to say scams are impossible but I think they are going to be harding then people think.

Re: MYTHIC: The Story Of Gods And Men (Canceled)

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post #10
post #2

Project has already been taken down by creator, and all of the companies information is being deleted from the internet, yet they still managed to get nearly $5,000 in the few hours it was up, which is quite worrying. Points of evidence - God character art is from http://pgwebdesign.net/blog/35-mythological-art-masterpieces... - Backgrounds are from http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=211755 and http://psd.…

I like the t-shirt and the bag too. You can clearly see it hasn't been screenprinted. It's been done in Photoshop.

To be fair, that's what I would do if I was doing a legit product- mock up the t's and bags, then get them printed once the money is received.

Re: MYTHIC: The Story Of Gods And Men (Canceled)

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post #2

Project has already been taken down by creator, and all of the companies information is being deleted from the internet, yet they still managed to get nearly $5,000 in the few hours it was up, which is quite worrying. Points of evidence - God character art is from http://pgwebdesign.net/blog/35-mythological-art-masterpieces... - Backgrounds are from http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=211755 and http://psd.…

I'm really sorry, but I have to ask... do you perchance work for a game development firm in Washington?

Re: MYTHIC: The Story Of Gods And Men (Canceled)

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I've been wondering for a while how long it would take for mass fake projects being created on kickstarter/indiegogo once these sites got more widely known. This project uses stolen pictures, but one could easily mock up random 3D scenes, make a cool video and walk away with 100k for two days work

I think you'll find the "walk away" part is not that simple, considering the fact that it would constitute a crime. The kind of crime law enforcement is quite familiar with and that leaves plenty of traceable evidence because it involves financial transactions.

I'm sure there will someday be someone clever enough to get away with it, but most people are likely to get caught very quickly.

Re: MYTHIC: The Story Of Gods And Men (Canceled)

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post #29
post #4

I've been wondering for a while how long it would take for mass fake projects being created on kickstarter/indiegogo once these sites got more widely known. This project uses stolen pictures, but one could easily mock up random 3D scenes, make a cool video and walk away with 100k for two days work

I think you'll find the "walk away" part is not that simple, considering the fact that it would constitute a crime . The kind of crime law enforcement is quite familiar with and that leaves plenty of traceable evidence because it involves financial transactions. I'm sure there will someday be someone clever enough to get away with it, but most people are likely to get caught very quickly.

While I agree it would be a crime, how hard would it be to enforce? Can't the perps just claim some lame excuse for why they didn't execute on their stated plan?
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