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Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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> Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence So...what happened to that whole "Metaverse" thing? Is it time to rename the company again?

Man, the Metaverse... what a fad. I almost can't even believe that WAS a thing. We had Habbo, and then we had Second Life, and NOW!!!!!!.... * deafening silence *

VR is a gadget, the same way that 4D cinemas are gadget. Ok it's +/- fun the first time to receive water droplets in your face while watching a movie, or for the cinema to spread fake fart smell, but this is not the experience you want to have every day.

Apparently only a single-digit % of people who purchased AR headsets are using them once in a month (source: Valve developer Chet Faliszek)

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> He tells me that, by the end of this year, Meta will own more than 340,000 of Nvidia’s H100 GPUs That's approx $15b worth of H100 GPUs.

You are assuming they are paying retail price, which they certainly are not.

What makes you think they are getting a good discount?

What are they going to do? Buy AMD, yeah right.

Nvidia's sales are only limited by the number of wafers they can get from TSMC.

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OpenAI got all of the positive publicity for its social mission yet in short time we clearly see that Meta has done more for democratizing access to deep learning and will continue to lead on this front. The cost of open sourcing models is far more than just development cost. They're spending millions of dollars training models with that fleet of H100s. This makes open source AI much more costly, and generous.

As Meta has always done. Their contributions to open source ML have always been above and beyond everyone else and they have one of the absolute best teams in the industry.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the demand why wouldn't Nvidia be able to charge sticker price?

You can afford to take a hit off your profits when you can simply ramp up production for retail sales. Looks great too for shareholders.

They can't just ramp up production though. Isn't TSMC booked for years by them, Apple, Intel and AMD?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are assuming they are paying retail price, which they certainly are not.

Wouldn't it still be $15bn? If I manage to buy $20 worth of gold for $10 through a special deal, is it not still $20 worth of gold?

Used GPUs cannot be sold for the same price that new GPUs are bought.

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> Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence So...what happened to that whole "Metaverse" thing? Is it time to rename the company again?

Man, the Metaverse... what a fad. I almost can't even believe that WAS a thing. We had Habbo, and then we had Second Life, and NOW!!!!!!.... * deafening silence *

How is it a defeaning silence? Their latest hardware product was released ~3 months ago.

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I wonder how many of those chips were acquired to run metaverse stuff. Should be lots of overlap between rendering graphics and running cuda based models. I'm interested in seeing how the behemoths that are Meta and Google catch openai. I think it's a question of when, not if. Both companies just have a ridiculous amount of resources to throw behind these efforts. At least meta is releasing their stuff as "open sourc…

Almost no overlap: this metaverse thing just needs classical CPU servers (and not a lot of them considering the minimal user activity there). For now Google is still late to the party (full proprietary, and nobody has seen the supposedly good model called Ultra, only an average one called Pro), and Meta is actually the company that has pushed the field forward for all companies (with LLaMA).

> Meta is actually the company that has pushed the field forward for all companies (with LLaMA).

This is the first time I'm hearing this, unless you mean the fact that it leaked to the public. How was LLaMa pushing the field forward otherwise?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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> He tells me that, by the end of this year, Meta will own more than 340,000 of Nvidia’s H100 GPUs That's approx $15b worth of H100 GPUs.

You are assuming they are paying retail price, which they certainly are not.

Not always. For high in demand products they could pay more to guarantee supply and delivery dates.

Some people will pay more to be first in line.

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