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Re: Each Facebook user is monitored by thousands of companies

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Even if you don't have a account, they still provide a "shadow profile" on you and it has been proven and admitted. https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/11/17225482/facebook-shadow-...

Do they keep a shadow profile on you if you violate their TOS? I'd assume not but that'd be a fun way to get off the proverbial list if possible

You get a shadow profile without agreeing to a TOS. There’s nothing to violate

Re: Each Facebook user is monitored by thousands of companies

#22

Never had Instagram. Never had WhatsApp. Had an old Facebook account opened under a fake name, using a throwaway email (haven't opened it in six months, maybe more). That company is cancer.

Let me guess: you don't have a kid that goes to a school that only posts crucial news and updates to their Facebook page and you don't have a friend group that uses a WhatsApp group to plan events. Try explaining to the average human that you have a moral objection which means you can't install the same app everyone else has, and that everyone else needs to do a lot of work to accommodate you. One of my friend groups…

My moral objections don't require other people to engage in any effort whatsoever, they require me to find alternatives.

Your position seems to be that you feel bullied over your stance and you're willing to capitulate to it for the mild contrivances it offers you.

Re: Each Facebook user is monitored by thousands of companies

#23
Recently been inundated with “People you may know” which are old flings, people I went on one date with/slept with once, etc… I met them on tinder or CL, and it’s very strange to see that. I can only guess maybe I was still in their phone, but I haven’t had a facebook app on my phone in many years, and I don’t believe they were all even on my contacts list. I did have whatsapp, so I can only guess that’s where it’s coming from - maybe there was a small overlap in 2017 or so. One of them I’m sure I never added to my contacts.

Anyway, it’s strange and jarring to see that. It’s been more than 6 years, I’m married - with kids. I don’t want to see them, I don’t want them to see me.

This was with everything on good terms, I can only imagine how jarring it would be if things were different.

Re: Each Facebook user is monitored by thousands of companies

#24

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That is a good start but unfortunately my understanding is that they will still have a data profile on you specifically. This is a problem for us all and we need regulation to solve it. And we probably need campaign finance reform to get people in power willing to regulate it.

Exactly, if your kid has an account, and she identified her mom, facebook will think her mom is your wife if at the same address. Those connections start to add up, add in they copied linkedin, your phone address books, email accounts, etc.

To me, the answer is noise.

Generate so much false data about yourself that you both overwhelm and devalue this mechanism entirely.

Re: Each Facebook user is monitored by thousands of companies

#25

Never had Instagram. Never had WhatsApp. Had an old Facebook account opened under a fake name, using a throwaway email (haven't opened it in six months, maybe more). That company is cancer.

Let me guess: you don't have a kid that goes to a school that only posts crucial news and updates to their Facebook page and you don't have a friend group that uses a WhatsApp group to plan events. Try explaining to the average human that you have a moral objection which means you can't install the same app everyone else has, and that everyone else needs to do a lot of work to accommodate you. One of my friend groups…

So far, I've yet to be in a friend group that wasn't willing to switch to Signal once I explained my security concern. This includes my group of women who are spiritual directors in their 60s, not exactly a demographic you'd expect to care about E2EE.

It's always been easy for me to come up with a circumstance under which something the people involved cared about might become so politically or socially condemned that being associated with it could have major repercussions.

Maybe give that a shot next time you want a group to switch to something private.

Re: Each Facebook user is monitored by thousands of companies

#26

Link to the actual Consumer Reports report: https://www.consumerreports.org/electronics/privacy/each-fac... So most of the data provided is probably coming in via the FB tracking pixel. I think the references to FB's "custom audiences" is a red herring - it's a very manual process and very few companies use that feature in any sort of scale. FB hashes the data that gets uploaded and specifically throws out extraneous…

> I think the references to FB's "custom audiences" is a red herring - it's a very manual process and very few companies use that feature in any sort of scale.

My experience is that "custom audiences" is a typical/normal usage. Companies that use platforms like Adobe Experience Platform (AEP) create their marketing segments (sets of targeted customers or prospects) in AEP and send those identifiers (e.g. hashed email) to various destinations including Facebook (via "custom audiences").

Re: Each Facebook user is monitored by thousands of companies

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I guess FB tracking pixels will no longer work when third-party cookies are removed from browsers. That seems like a massive hit for them if I understand it correctly (and a big W for us)

Yes and no. FB's tracking pixel can be both first and third party: https://www.facebook.com/business/help/471978536642445?id=12... Getting rid of third-party support will mean FB doesn't get anonymous data from random website users - but if you are logged into FB or hit the page from a FB link, it would still be trackable as a first-party cookie.

Don't tracking pixels also work without cookies or Javascript though? If you have an `` on your website or app, the server that houses that URL gets a ton of info on you from the HTTP request header data. Less useful without the cookie but still something.

Re: Each Facebook user is monitored by thousands of companies

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There's such a beautiful irony in reading about unfettered data mining on a website (theverge.com) which connects to *37* third-party domains when displaying the article:

1. ak.sail-horizon.com

2. amazon-adsystem.com

3. api.parsely.com

4. c.amazon-adsystem.com

5. cdn.concert.io

6. concert.io

7. coral.coralproject.net

8. coralproject.net

9. csp.withgoogle.com

10. d35xxde4fgg0cx.cloudfront.net

11. duet-cdn.vox-cdn.com

12. google.com

13. googleoptimize.com

14. googletagmanager.com

15. googletagservices.com

16. gstatic.com

17. ingest.sentry.io

18. js.memberful.com

19. memberful.com

20. micro.rubiconproject.com

21. moatads.com

22. narrativ.com

23. o4682.ingest.sentry.io

24. parsely.com

25. polyfill.io

26. rubiconproject.com

27. sail-horizon.com

28. sentry.io

29. static.narrativ.com

30. theverge.coral.coralproject.net

31. vox-cdn.com

32. www.google.com

33. www.googleoptimize.com

34. www.googletagmanager.com

35. www.googletagservices.com

36. www.gstatic.com

37. z.moatads.com

P.S. list courtesy of the uMatrix browser extension

Re: Each Facebook user is monitored by thousands of companies

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"Large retailers like The Home Depot, Walmart, or Amazon showed up, too" Call me naive, but I'm surprised to see these sell my data, I'll have to read agreements for accounts on those websites...

Really? Selling your data is core to the business model of virtually every merchant that offers the ability to create an account and/or use a membership "rewards" tracking system.

Re: Each Facebook user is monitored by thousands of companies

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Exactly, if your kid has an account, and she identified her mom, facebook will think her mom is your wife if at the same address. Those connections start to add up, add in they copied linkedin, your phone address books, email accounts, etc.

To me, the answer is noise. Generate so much false data about yourself that you both overwhelm and devalue this mechanism entirely.

Cause an infinite loop CPU explodes by making data that leads to you being your own grandfather.
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