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My AI Timelines Have Sped Up (Again)

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Re: My AI Timelines Have Sped Up (Again)

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I'm no AI expert, I don't have a lot of domain knowledge but what irks me about reading through this entire blog post is the idea that we are hinging on a definition of AGI that apparently accounts for 95% (!) of "economically valuable work" while basically not talking _at all_ about the trades. No mention of construction, manual labour, mechanics, welders, painters, nothing! Is the author trying to say that all that…

The belief is that once the AGI is here, the possibilities are endless for disrupting absolutely every aspect of our life and society, the end of human history is what I've hear Open AI folks say. There will be zero work, humans will be completely useless economically and we'll just have to hope that some how, all of this wealth is fairly distributed and we don't lose our minds from feeling completely useless. What y…

We don't know what will be at the end of this. It seems that the OpenAI folks are endlessly pursuing the technology of AGI without actually working on making sure that AGI benefit "all of humanity." They haven't even articulate what it means to benefit all of humanity.

Re: My AI Timelines Have Sped Up (Again)

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He should take into account in 3 months the time line will accelerate 20% and compound it and do a discount to present and give a more accurate answer.

Let me do his job for him: 90% AGI will happen by 2030.

Re: My AI Timelines Have Sped Up (Again)

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I'm no AI expert, I don't have a lot of domain knowledge but what irks me about reading through this entire blog post is the idea that we are hinging on a definition of AGI that apparently accounts for 95% (!) of "economically valuable work" while basically not talking _at all_ about the trades. No mention of construction, manual labour, mechanics, welders, painters, nothing! Is the author trying to say that all that…

The belief is that once the AGI is here, the possibilities are endless for disrupting absolutely every aspect of our life and society, the end of human history is what I've hear Open AI folks say. There will be zero work, humans will be completely useless economically and we'll just have to hope that some how, all of this wealth is fairly distributed and we don't lose our minds from feeling completely useless. What y…

> What's appealing about this? I don't know, but billions and upon billions are being poured into it and many "smart" people are striving for it.

Men's way to "give birth"?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The belief is that once the AGI is here, the possibilities are endless for disrupting absolutely every aspect of our life and society, the end of human history is what I've hear Open AI folks say. There will be zero work, humans will be completely useless economically and we'll just have to hope that some how, all of this wealth is fairly distributed and we don't lose our minds from feeling completely useless. What y…

We don't know what will be at the end of this. It seems that the OpenAI folks are endlessly pursuing the technology of AGI without actually working on making sure that AGI benefit "all of humanity." They haven't even articulate what it means to benefit all of humanity.

That's what's so insane about it all :)

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I'm no AI expert, I don't have a lot of domain knowledge but what irks me about reading through this entire blog post is the idea that we are hinging on a definition of AGI that apparently accounts for 95% (!) of "economically valuable work" while basically not talking _at all_ about the trades. No mention of construction, manual labour, mechanics, welders, painters, nothing! Is the author trying to say that all that…

"reading through this entire blog post" ?

Is

"The Physically Embodied Bear" "95%+ will include taking physical, real-world actions."

not a mention of "construction, manual labour, mechanics, welders, painters" and "blue-collar workers" ?

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I'm no AI expert, I don't have a lot of domain knowledge but what irks me about reading through this entire blog post is the idea that we are hinging on a definition of AGI that apparently accounts for 95% (!) of "economically valuable work" while basically not talking _at all_ about the trades. No mention of construction, manual labour, mechanics, welders, painters, nothing! Is the author trying to say that all that…

I totally agree with this - it always seems like sort of a weird omission when people talk about AGI doing 95% of work without any discussion of robotics. It seems very obvious that you need bipedal robots (or a lot of different types of robots) to hit that number. Do these AGI predictions assume that we'll have those by the time they hit AGI? Or is the word "knowledge" supposed to be implied before the work "work"?…

One good robot arm that a below minimum wage gig worker carries around.

edit: he can also turn the crank to keep it powered maybe

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My AI timelines says next AI winter will come in 10 years, when people find it's a vaporware ... again.

Disney and Pixar animation are about to get 10,000x - 100,000x cheaper and accessible to nearly anyone.

When applied to the correct domains, AI is incredible.

Re: My AI Timelines Have Sped Up (Again)

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I'm no AI expert, I don't have a lot of domain knowledge but what irks me about reading through this entire blog post is the idea that we are hinging on a definition of AGI that apparently accounts for 95% (!) of "economically valuable work" while basically not talking _at all_ about the trades. No mention of construction, manual labour, mechanics, welders, painters, nothing! Is the author trying to say that all that…

I totally agree with this - it always seems like sort of a weird omission when people talk about AGI doing 95% of work without any discussion of robotics. It seems very obvious that you need bipedal robots (or a lot of different types of robots) to hit that number. Do these AGI predictions assume that we'll have those by the time they hit AGI? Or is the word "knowledge" supposed to be implied before the work "work"?…

I'm not sure that the physical embodiment needs to be robotic in nature. I'm a physically abled home owner and need to repair my hvac or plumbing. Instead of paying for someone in the trades to come out and do the work for me why can't I just put on a pair of augmented reality glasses and have the AGI use me? The camera and my voice inputs should allow the AGI to diagnose the issue, order needed parts, and then instruct me using visual overlays and audio prompts on completing the repair.
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