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Font height differences between Windows and Mac (2019)

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Re: Font height differences between Windows and Mac (2019)

#21
post #2

Speaking of font differences, the default Windows emoji font is so bad I don't understand why Google doesn't just ship their Android emoji font with Chrome and default to that.

The windows 10 ones are atrocious but I quite like the windows 11 ones. https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/microsoft-teams-publi...

They look creepy to me, quite tacky too.

Re: Font height differences between Windows and Mac (2019)

#22
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The windows 10 ones are atrocious but I quite like the windows 11 ones. https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/microsoft-teams-publi...

The comments on that article are hilarious. Never in my life would I have expected someone to complain about a lack of professionality in an emoji set. Since when are emoji professional?

>Since when are emoji professional?

Since at least last year, and probably earlier.

https://yro.slashdot.org/story/23/07/06/1955226/canadian-jud...

https://yro.slashdot.org/story/24/01/02/1647233/the-humble-e...

Re: Font height differences between Windows and Mac (2019)

#23
post #8

Re the stuff about @-moz-document at the end, does anyone remember exploiting IE bugs in parsing CSS to present different rules for IE vs firefox, especially to work around IE's broken box model? I remember actually using this[0] hack somewhere long ago: div.content { width:400px; voice-family: "\"}\""; voice-family:inherit; width:300px; } I can't believe the stuff we used to go through. [0] http://tantek.com/CSS/Exa…

Yes, but than the and friends made those hacks pretty rare.

Re: Font height differences between Windows and Mac (2019)

#24

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pic says thousand words emoji says about ten still an improvement

Problem is they don't say the same thing to everybody. Do eyes emoji mean you are looking at it, or you want me to look at it, or that you have seen it? They don't really say anything.

I listened to an expert on conflict resolution once say:

People get pretty good at reading body language. The problem is you never know what conversation the person is having with themselves.

Re: Font height differences between Windows and Mac (2019)

#25
Fun fact on the first Windows 95 fonts in Arabic, is that Microsoft decided to go cheap. and not to pay Boutros Fonts, a London-based type foundry that design Arabic fonts, and bought a cheaper derivative 'pirated' copy of that same font for $5k. A lengthy legal battle ensued with Microsoft ultimately winning it out of might of its $$ and legal team.

Re: Font height differences between Windows and Mac (2019)

#26
post #8

Re the stuff about @-moz-document at the end, does anyone remember exploiting IE bugs in parsing CSS to present different rules for IE vs firefox, especially to work around IE's broken box model? I remember actually using this[0] hack somewhere long ago: div.content { width:400px; voice-family: "\"}\""; voice-family:inherit; width:300px; } I can't believe the stuff we used to go through. [0] http://tantek.com/CSS/Exa…

Anyone remember the Meyer CSS reset?

https://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/css/reset/

Version 1 was published in 2008:

    /* http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/css/reset/ */
    /* v1.0 | 20080212 */
    
    html, body, div, span, applet, object, iframe,
    h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6, p, blockquote, pre,
    a, abbr, acronym, address, big, cite, code,
    del, dfn, em, font, img, ins, kbd, q, s, samp,
    small, strike, strong, sub, sup, tt, var,
    b, u, i, center,
    dl, dt, dd, ol, ul, li,
    fieldset, form, label, legend,
    table, caption, tbody, tfoot, thead, tr, th, td {
      margin: 0;
      padding: 0;
      border: 0;
      outline: 0;
      font-size: 100%;
      vertical-align: baseline;
      background: transparent;
    }
    body {
      line-height: 1;
    }
    ol, ul {
      list-style: none;
    }
    blockquote, q {
      quotes: none;
    }
    blockquote:before, blockquote:after,
    q:before, q:after {
      content: '';
      content: none;
    }
    
    /* remember to define focus styles! */
    :focus {
      outline: 0;
    }
    
    /* remember to highlight inserts somehow! */
    ins {
      text-decoration: none;
    }
    del {
      text-decoration: line-through;
    }
    
    /* tables still need 'cellspacing="0"' in the markup */
    table {
      border-collapse: collapse;
      border-spacing: 0;
    }

Re: Font height differences between Windows and Mac (2019)

#27
post #2

Speaking of font differences, the default Windows emoji font is so bad I don't understand why Google doesn't just ship their Android emoji font with Chrome and default to that.

The windows 10 ones are atrocious but I quite like the windows 11 ones. https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/microsoft-teams-publi...

These look terrible to me. It’s like everything was drawn by a child and basic emotions are dialed up way past 11.

Re: Font height differences between Windows and Mac (2019)

#28
post #2

Speaking of font differences, the default Windows emoji font is so bad I don't understand why Google doesn't just ship their Android emoji font with Chrome and default to that.

"Funny" thing about the Windows emoji font, is that flags are not included. I guess Microsoft is worried it can hurt their business (e.g. Israeli flag, Palestinian flag, Taiwanese flag, etc...).

So, if you need flag icons for any reason (e.g. phone number country code input), you'd have to use a different emoji font.

Re: Font height differences between Windows and Mac (2019)

#29
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The windows 10 ones are atrocious but I quite like the windows 11 ones. https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/microsoft-teams-publi...

These look terrible to me. It’s like everything was drawn by a child and basic emotions are dialed up way past 11.

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Re: Font height differences between Windows and Mac (2019)

#30
post #6

I struggled with this recently, upgrading qtwebkit from Qt5 to Qt6. Qt5 used platform-specific height values, while Qt6 now uses win height values, for consistent rendering across all platforms. It’s better in concept, the only issue is that the really big cross-platform browser _doesn’t_ so it turns into “why doesn’t this font rendering look like Chrome on Mac/linux?”

It’s not better “in concept,” it’s worse. Not only is it a non-native API, it’s abandoning one aspect of even attempting to mimic being native in favor of “branding.”

If someone insists that an app on the Mac should look the same as on Windows they’re an idiot. If they say an app on the Mac should look the same as a web page on Windows or Linux they’re a malicious idiot.

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