I'm not sure how to feel about this. Nasty tracking is certainly possible without tracking cookies, and tracking cookies are actually quite easy to block & deal with. Other technologies which track you are not necessarily all that easy to prevent. It wouldn't necessarily be better if most companies moved away from tracking cookies.
Facebook bans ads for Votes for Women boardgame, claims "sensitive social issue"
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#22Re: Facebook bans ads for Votes for Women boardgame, claims "sensitive social issue"
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, that is what he said. Welfare beneficiaries and women are two groups libertarians find are tough constituencies to appeal to, and both of these groups have increased in size since 1920.
The quote says “capitalist democracy” is an oxymoron. If Thiel is pro-capitalism he thinks democracy is a problem. If he is pro-democracy he thinks capitalism is a problem.
He doesn't say either of those things. Considering the context of a pro-libertarian text, what it means is that the capitalism part of "capitalist democracy" is losing significance as the US is moving more towards a EU-style social democracy.
But we all choose to believe what we want to believe. He certainly never said he opposed women's suffrage, as the original commenter claimed.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
The quote says “capitalist democracy” is an oxymoron. If Thiel is pro-capitalism he thinks democracy is a problem. If he is pro-democracy he thinks capitalism is a problem.
He doesn't say either of those things. Considering the context of a pro-libertarian text, what it means is that the capitalism part of "capitalist democracy" is losing significance as the US is moving more towards a EU-style social democracy. But we all choose to believe what we want to believe. He certainly never said he opposed women's suffrage, as the original commenter claimed.
> the US is moving more towards a EU-style social democracy.
The US is doing no such thing :-)
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#26Is Peter Thiel's opposition to Women's Suffrage still policy at Facebook? https://www.huffpost.com/entry/peter-thiel-women-democracy_n...
This is the first I'm hearing about this, but "opposition to women's suffrage" seems like a significant misreading.
The attitude of "I disagree with what you say, but I defend to the death your right to say it", certainly can apply to voting too, and seems to be at work in this case.
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#27I'm not sure how to feel about this. Nasty tracking is certainly possible without tracking cookies, and tracking cookies are actually quite easy to block & deal with. Other technologies which track you are not necessarily all that easy to prevent. It wouldn't necessarily be better if most companies moved away from tracking cookies.
> Nasty tracking is certainly possible without tracking cookies, and tracking cookies are actually quite easy to block & deal with.
Are you replying to the wrong thread by chance? The article isn't about tracking or cookies at all.
Re: Facebook bans ads for Votes for Women boardgame, claims "sensitive social issue"
#28From someone who worked on this program at Meta before getting laid off: the ads aren't banned. Ads about social issues (including the right to vote -- which like it or not is an active issue in some of the world) are more sensitive than others.
They need a disclaimer so that it's transparent who is paying for the ads, which is literally in the error message in the screenshot.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, that is what he said. Welfare beneficiaries and women are two groups libertarians find are tough constituencies to appeal to, and both of these groups have increased in size since 1920.
The quote says “capitalist democracy” is an oxymoron. If Thiel is pro-capitalism he thinks democracy is a problem. If he is pro-democracy he thinks capitalism is a problem.
in what way? I think we collectively figured out democracy doesn't work a few thousand years ago. That's why we have a democratic republic.
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#30Is Peter Thiel's opposition to Women's Suffrage still policy at Facebook? https://www.huffpost.com/entry/peter-thiel-women-democracy_n...
From your link: > It would be absurd to suggest that women’s votes will be taken away or that this would solve the political problems that vex us. While I don’t think any class of people should be disenfranchised, I have little hope that voting will make things better. Thiel isn't opposed to Women's suffrage, he's just noting that it had negative impacts (in his opinion). By that logic I'm opposed to social media.
> By that logic I'm opposed to social media.
Facebook for me was a net negative.
Instagram, I still keep even though it is owned by Meta. (Just like I still keep WhatsApp even though it’s owned by Meta.) But I don’t use Instagram all that much. Instagram doesn’t even show up in the “Most Used” category in Screentime on my iPhone, for example. So for me, Instagram does not negatively affect me much. Probably mainly because I am not very active there these days.
TikTok, I spend quite a bit of time watching and posting to. But I don’t feel like it’s affecting me negatively in any way.
I deleted my Facebook account ages ago because I noticed that it was a waste of time and a drain of energy.
Reddit I use quite a bit. And your experience there depends greatly on what subreddits you subscribe to.
HN is certainly social media as well, mind you! And out of all, it is the one that has had the greatest positive impact on my life. A lot of my skills are thanks to HN. And even my current job, which I’ve had for a bit over a year now, is thanks to HN (and third party tools for filtering and searching “Who’s Hiring” threads.)
For me, social media has been a net positive. But it has required that I pay attention to where and what I spend my time and energy on. God knows I wasted a lot of hours playing FarmVille on Facebook back in 2009/2010 for example.