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Cloudflare employee posts layoff call with HR and goes viral [video]

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Re: Cloudflare employee posts layoff call with HR and goes viral [video]

#23
Wow. This person is amazing! I like how she stood her ground despite these two people accusing _her_ of not performing well, when in fact the company was letting people go after hiring en masse without a plan. Just wow. Also, cloudflare, bro, get rid of those two people and whoever decided to use them as tools in gaslighting employees.

Edit: If i had a daughter i’d want her to be like this person.

Re: Cloudflare employee posts layoff call with HR and goes viral [video]

#24
This is why we need unions.

Layoffs are unfortunately, sometimes, necessary. But when they happen, it's important that the right people are chosen, for the right reasons (whether that's performance based, voluntary, protecting certain groups, ensuring fairness, etc). That requires collective bargaining by representatives who are able to assess and change the criteria, and who are able to negotiate for better outcomes for those impacted.

Re: Cloudflare employee posts layoff call with HR and goes viral [video]

#25
I get why Brittany's mad: Cloudflare appears to be handling this about as bad as possible. But those two HR randos aren't gonna have anything worthwhile to say, either.

I don't want to be judgmental of Brittany because it's a sucky call to have to take. But my recommendation in this situation is to say "I disagree with that assessment of my performance, but I understand you are terminating my employment. What details do we need to handle with any severance, and where do I send my laptop." And then, as is tradition, go get day drunk.

Re: Cloudflare employee posts layoff call with HR and goes viral [video]

#28

I get why she's upset, but what is the point of arguing with these people? They're just the messengers.

She's not arguing to change the outcome, she's arguing to call out the hypocrisy/bullshit. In some sense it's pointless, yes; in some other sense, you deserve an argument if you don't deal straightly with the person you're laying off.

Re: Cloudflare employee posts layoff call with HR and goes viral [video]

#29

This kind of behaviour from HR should be illegal. Be honest and upfront, we're all humans here.

It actually would be illegal in most of the EU (at the very least in The Netherlands) AFAIK. This is some "only in the US" level stuff (in the context of "The West").

what specifically would be breaking EU/Dutch law here?

Re: Cloudflare employee posts layoff call with HR and goes viral [video]

#30
What a strange fucking world we're building.

Also if her manager has been giving her good feedback, then this is just wrong. How would you supposed to know you're not meeting expectation if you're not getting appropriate feedback. If this is all true, and I there is no reason to believe it isn't, then these companies are just scum.

The US needs better workplace protection laws.

Take them to court.

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