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How to get coworkers to stop giving me ChatGPT-generated suggestions?

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Re: How to get coworkers to stop giving me ChatGPT-generated suggestions?

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Offtopic: "Comments have been moved to chat; please do not continue the discussion here." What a shitty place that website has become, dang!

I think it's a fundamentally flawed premise of the site: that answers ought to be self-contained and all else is noise. No debate, no commentary. That's why they reject opinion-based questions. But not all things in life are cut and dried. I get it, though; subjectivity makes it difficult to promote quality answers.

Re: How to get coworkers to stop giving me ChatGPT-generated suggestions?

#22
post #4

What matters is whether the suggestions are actually good, not where they came from.

My gut reaction is no, but let me think out loud using ad absurdum to see if there is merit.

A five year old asks chatGPT how to achieve world peace. The response is not only possible but easily affordable on a short timeline. Do I care that a 5 year old got it from ChatGPT? I guess not. A part of me would want all the adults on the planet to stop and acknowledge how tragically ineffectual they are, but as far as whether the source matters...nope.

Good point. Thanks for letting me think through it.

Re: How to get coworkers to stop giving me ChatGPT-generated suggestions?

#23
post #9
post #4

What matters is whether the suggestions are actually good, not where they came from.

The author makes it clear in the associated discussion that he doesn't immediately assume the suggestions are bad based on their source: > I take the time to understand and consider each suggestion, not rejecting anything out of hand, and share them with my team members (of which there are 17). The issue is the time it takes to explain _why_ these are bad ideas to non-technical (and skeptical) colleagues.

brandolini's law

Re: How to get coworkers to stop giving me ChatGPT-generated suggestions?

#24
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author makes it clear in the associated discussion that he doesn't immediately assume the suggestions are bad based on their source: > I take the time to understand and consider each suggestion, not rejecting anything out of hand, and share them with my team members (of which there are 17). The issue is the time it takes to explain _why_ these are bad ideas to non-technical (and skeptical) colleagues.

That sounds to me less of an issue with ChatGPT, and more with having colleagues that don't understand how to engage in reasonable discussion or evaluate information correctly.

Good point. Maybe they can invite a discussion where the suggester walks through ChatGPT steps explaining how it is done? Hopefully people aren't so flippant they hammer their keyboard and hit send email. If that's the case, then maybe they need an ego check.

I think my default response would be (regardless of the ChatGPT instructions):

"I looked it over and it doesn't actually work. ChatGPT is good for many high level things but when the specifics get technical, is struggles and invents solutions that don't exist; like a bloom filter. Ask ChaGPT what a bloom filter is."

Re: How to get coworkers to stop giving me ChatGPT-generated suggestions?

#25
post #21

Offtopic: "Comments have been moved to chat; please do not continue the discussion here." What a shitty place that website has become, dang!

I think it's a fundamentally flawed premise of the site: that answers ought to be self-contained and all else is noise. No debate, no commentary. That's why they reject opinion-based questions. But not all things in life are cut and dried. I get it, though; subjectivity makes it difficult to promote quality answers.

Yeah, they pretty much explicitly disclaim those questions that don't have cut and dried answers. But I think that means they never should have dipped into topics like "workplace", which has vanishingly few cut and dried topics.

Re: How to get coworkers to stop giving me ChatGPT-generated suggestions?

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post #23
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author makes it clear in the associated discussion that he doesn't immediately assume the suggestions are bad based on their source: > I take the time to understand and consider each suggestion, not rejecting anything out of hand, and share them with my team members (of which there are 17). The issue is the time it takes to explain _why_ these are bad ideas to non-technical (and skeptical) colleagues.

brandolini's law

intellectual entropy

Re: How to get coworkers to stop giving me ChatGPT-generated suggestions?

#27
post #4

What matters is whether the suggestions are actually good, not where they came from.

Where they came from is part of how you decide if they are good. Especially for nuanced knowledge work.

If not, I have a pacemaker I would like to sell you.

Re: How to get coworkers to stop giving me ChatGPT-generated suggestions?

#28
Several months ago, I received a report that I believed to be generated by an LLM, rather than original work. So I asked my coworkers on Slack about their expert opinion: do you believe this is original work or not?

The only answer I received was from a guy who copy-pasted it into an "LLM detector" and uncritically copy-pasted the output for me. This response got several thumbs-up from management and mentors.

Geez, if I'd wanted that kind of crap answer I could've obtained it myself, without asking "experts" for their human opinions.

Re: How to get coworkers to stop giving me ChatGPT-generated suggestions?

#29
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's a fundamentally flawed premise of the site: that answers ought to be self-contained and all else is noise. No debate, no commentary. That's why they reject opinion-based questions. But not all things in life are cut and dried. I get it, though; subjectivity makes it difficult to promote quality answers.

Yeah, they pretty much explicitly disclaim those questions that don't have cut and dried answers. But I think that means they never should have dipped into topics like "workplace", which has vanishingly few cut and dried topics.

On these sites the idea is that answers belong in the top-level answer posts where they can be voted up and down for the purpose of sorting the competing ideas and forms of responses to the primary question post. Criticisms should remain in the comments until they are integrated and addressed in the answers, at which point they are obsolete and can be removed. Therefore chats belong elsewhere, and are helpfully moved into chat rooms, which you can click through to and read if you're interested.
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