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Let's make the indie web easier

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Re: Let's make the indie web easier

#21
- https://www.wix.com/

- https://www.weebly.com/

- https://www.squarespace.com/ (the one with sponsored segments in every YouTube video)

- https://www.ionos.com/websites/website-builder. IONOS is a domain registrar, most other domain registrars (at least namecheap) offer website builders as well.

The keyword is "WYSIWYG". These site builders are targeted for non-tech-savvy people who want an easy solution, they include publishing and not a single line of code or terminal is required.

Re: Let's make the indie web easier

#23
I couldn’t agree more. One step I’ve made towards this goal is to have my website content served directly from GitHub. The content is Markdown files that are fetched from the GitHub CDN and rendered to HTML on-the-fly using a Cloudflare Worker.

I’ve extracted out the GitHub fetching into a small npm package: https://github.com/cool-calm/collected-press/tree/main/packa...

And here’s my home page using this approach. The code needs to be cleaned up and I’m still working out the best strategy for caching (Cloudflare KV has been disappointing), but I’m happy with this as a model. https://github.com/RoyalIcing/RoyalIcing

Re: Let's make the indie web easier

#25

I write web server creation tools, so I'm somewhat familiar with this space. I'm not sure I'd recommend shared hosting setups. If you're going that route then you might as well host on WordPress.com or squarespace or whatever. The logical place to serve is of course from your home machine. These days there are lots of users with good access, good enough to serve. Assuming you don't have a crappy ISP that blocks incom…

I agree that a certain barrier to entry is a good thing because it means you have to be invested in it. However, setting up your own server and managing a DNS is a far cry from Geocities. Creating a resilient indie web is different from making an interesting indie web

Re: Let's make the indie web easier

#28
It’s incredibly easy now to have a “website” for a vast number of different purposes, via Facebook, Twitter, Etsy, Patreon, etc., all of which come with the added value of discoverability. And as always, the cost of ease is control. There’s value in control, but it will always be a trade off.

So arguing for making independent websites easier is really arguing for another level of granularity in the tradeoffs between “social media presence” and “Wordpress”. And I guess I’m not really sold that that’s all that helpful. The loss of discoverability is a step function you hit the moment you go independent, which means that for the vast majority of cases, there’s going to be a “dead zone” of value where having slightly more control just isn’t worth it. I’m just not sure that that dead zone doesn’t end pretty close to where the current tools are.

Re: Let's make the indie web easier

#30

I write web server creation tools, so I'm somewhat familiar with this space. I'm not sure I'd recommend shared hosting setups. If you're going that route then you might as well host on WordPress.com or squarespace or whatever. The logical place to serve is of course from your home machine. These days there are lots of users with good access, good enough to serve. Assuming you don't have a crappy ISP that blocks incom…

She hosts people at her physical house, why should her digital home be any different?
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