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Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Post by AdamJacobMuller »

dbmnt wrote: post #19
AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having worked with every vendor under the sun for networking equipment across my career, I enjoy working with Juniper by far the most. The configuration syntax works as expected, it's flexible but extensible in the right places and mostly has lots of knobs to tune things but without requiring extensive boilerplate to get things to work as expected. The hardware seems to fit intelligent niches and actually does what i…

I'm just curious, why would you want to run unsigned code on a Juniper device? What is the use case?

I was doing a number of unholy things at the time, effectively monkey-patching and syscall interception of some of the daemons for "seemed like a good idea at the time" reasons.

Also, sometimes, you just want to throw a tool on there to test something.

Today, I'd love to run stuff like tailscale for access to the control plane remotely.

Mostly, however? I did it because they said I couldn't.

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Post by NewJazz »

AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #14
pavelstoev wrote: post #6

Happy Juniper customer since 2010. Across SRX, EX, QFX lines. What to do now, what to do...

Arista or whitebox switches, depending on how big you are and your appetite to DIY your network as code vs DIY writing configuration.

What is a whitebox switch?

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Post by usr1106 »

AlbertCory wrote: post #7

Read: "Bill & Dave" by Michael Malone. Agilent took the heart & soul of HP. Then it split further (Keysight et al) HP took the printers, which at least used to be a good business. HPE is the wretched refuse that's left.

> printers, which used to be a good business

Good business as in earning money or as producing customer satisfaction? I don't know about the former, but I do know that HP printers are a horrible user experience these days. The printer is connected via USB, but it cannot be used without an internet connection to their data collection and ink selling cloud nonsense. I will never by anything from that brand again. (I used to be a HP fan since the 1980s.)

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Post by usr1106 »

user3939382 wrote: post #17

Great let’s just have 2 vendors in every industry in the world with a combined 90% market share.

Why only 90%? For smart phone operating systems it's higher I'd assume (not counting China, that's not a free country anyway). Same for desktop computers.

A major failure of free market economics that is widely ignored by politics.

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Post by __d »

AlbertCory wrote: post #7

Read: "Bill & Dave" by Michael Malone. Agilent took the heart & soul of HP. Then it split further (Keysight et al) HP took the printers, which at least used to be a good business. HPE is the wretched refuse that's left.

HPE took the PC server business. I'd hardly call that "wretched"?

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Post by zdw »

AlbertCory wrote: post #7

Read: "Bill & Dave" by Michael Malone. Agilent took the heart & soul of HP. Then it split further (Keysight et al) HP took the printers, which at least used to be a good business. HPE is the wretched refuse that's left.

Doesn't HPE still have a competent HPC division with Cray and the Chapel language?

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Post by __d »

NewJazz wrote: post #22
AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Arista or whitebox switches, depending on how big you are and your appetite to DIY your network as code vs DIY writing configuration.

What is a whitebox switch?

A generic switch motherboard, in a generic case, with a generic PSU.

There's a boot standard, so you can install a range of different Linux-based OS distributions.

Similar in spirit to a whitebox PC, hence the naming.

Google has a zillion links.

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Post by shiftpgdn »

zdw wrote: post #26
AlbertCory wrote: post #7

Read: "Bill & Dave" by Michael Malone. Agilent took the heart & soul of HP. Then it split further (Keysight et al) HP took the printers, which at least used to be a good business. HPE is the wretched refuse that's left.

Doesn't HPE still have a competent HPC division with Cray and the Chapel language?

I believe all the cray stuff is being spun down and discontinued.

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Post by jtriangle »

usr1106 wrote: post #24
user3939382 wrote: post #17

Great let’s just have 2 vendors in every industry in the world with a combined 90% market share.

Why only 90%? For smart phone operating systems it's higher I'd assume (not counting China, that's not a free country anyway). Same for desktop computers. A major failure of free market economics that is widely ignored by politics.

We don't have a free market economy, we have bought and paid for regulatory pressure and we call it 'free', while the reality is, it's the worst of both free market and planned economics.

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Post by woleium »

usr1106 wrote: post #23
AlbertCory wrote: post #7

Read: "Bill & Dave" by Michael Malone. Agilent took the heart & soul of HP. Then it split further (Keysight et al) HP took the printers, which at least used to be a good business. HPE is the wretched refuse that's left.

> printers, which used to be a good business Good business as in earning money or as producing customer satisfaction? I don't know about the former, but I do know that HP printers are a horrible user experience these days. The printer is connected via USB, but it cannot be used without an internet connection to their data collection and ink selling cloud nonsense. I will never by anything from that brand again. (I us…

Never buy a consumer print device. The enterprise kit from HP is still good.
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