Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports • Hacker News Board

Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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Post by millzlane » Tue, Jan 09, 2024, 4:50 AM UTC

httpz wrote: post #11

Teever wrote: post #4

I wonder if Apple will ever make a waterproof laptop or tablet. It seems like they could easily make the macbook air waterproof at this point, if they were so inclined. What do people who want use their macs out in the field do?

It doesn't even have to be waterproof to prevent 99% water damage cases. It just needs to be water resistant against liquid pours from the top, like how a car can withstand rain.

Most of the liquid spills I see are from people carrying water bottles in their bags with the laptop.

Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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Post by Gigachad » Tue, Jan 09, 2024, 4:54 AM UTC

stephen_g wrote: post #19

Teever wrote: post #4

I wonder if Apple will ever make a waterproof laptop or tablet. It seems like they could easily make the macbook air waterproof at this point, if they were so inclined. What do people who want use their macs out in the field do?

Having used ruggedised laptops in the past - usually the keyboards are pretty horrible if they're fully waterproof. Depends between model to model, but the most fully-waterproof ones we had had a full membrane over the keyboard, making it super spongey and terrible to type on. An iPad on the other hard would be pretty easy to make fully waterproof like the phones, since it only has a couple of buttons and one port.

They could just make the keyboard an easily replaceable part and have it waterproofed off underneath the keyboard.

Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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Post by metadat » Tue, Jan 09, 2024, 4:57 AM UTC

gumby wrote: post #13

FWIW i just looked at the specs online and the iphone 15 pro is rated to IP68 while the ipad-pro and MacBook Air specs are silent on this.

My iPhone 13 mini was IP rated and died after the first dunk.

All of my Android Galaxy SXX phones have survived tons worse.. repeatedly.

I treat the new iPhone I had to buy as if it were made of porous glass.

Edit: Thanks everyone for the additional data points!

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Post by Affric » Tue, Jan 09, 2024, 5:01 AM UTC

ethanbond wrote: post #9

Affric wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, it will be interesting if they can deny a claim based on the above. I once received an iPod I sent to Apple with grass inside when it was returned to me and have never trusted them since.

Of course they can…? It’s just a term of the warranty policy. Very bizarre regarding your iPod! What is your working theory for that ?

I still think about it more than once a year almost 20 years later and I am still yet to come up with anything that doesn’t sound wildly implausible.

Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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Post by dgrin91 » Tue, Jan 09, 2024, 5:04 AM UTC

stephen_g wrote: post #19

Teever wrote: post #4

I wonder if Apple will ever make a waterproof laptop or tablet. It seems like they could easily make the macbook air waterproof at this point, if they were so inclined. What do people who want use their macs out in the field do?

Having used ruggedised laptops in the past - usually the keyboards are pretty horrible if they're fully waterproof. Depends between model to model, but the most fully-waterproof ones we had had a full membrane over the keyboard, making it super spongey and terrible to type on. An iPad on the other hard would be pretty easy to make fully waterproof like the phones, since it only has a couple of buttons and one port.

Touchscreens are terrible for any sort of environment requiring ruggedized gear. A little bit of rain or dirt makes the touch screen get very confused and totally useless for actual touch.

Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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Post by waynecochran » Tue, Jan 09, 2024, 5:05 AM UTC

I had to throw away my COMPLETELY DRY cord and get a new one because Apple reported the presence of water. New coord -- no problems.

Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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Post by nailer » Tue, Jan 09, 2024, 5:07 AM UTC

Teever wrote: post #4

I wonder if Apple will ever make a waterproof laptop or tablet. It seems like they could easily make the macbook air waterproof at this point, if they were so inclined. What do people who want use their macs out in the field do?

I wonder the same. We used to take cell phones not being waterproof as standard. Now everybody expects them to be waterproof.

The idea that is single spilled coffee can cause $1000 of damage or more to a laptop is ridiculous.

Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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Post by sen » Tue, Jan 09, 2024, 5:15 AM UTC

metadat wrote: post #23

gumby wrote: post #13

FWIW i just looked at the specs online and the iphone 15 pro is rated to IP68 while the ipad-pro and MacBook Air specs are silent on this.

My iPhone 13 mini was IP rated and died after the first dunk. All of my Android Galaxy SXX phones have survived tons worse.. repeatedly. I treat the new iPhone I had to buy as if it were made of porous glass. Edit: Thanks everyone for the additional data points!

I’ve been snorkeling and swimming with my 14 Pro Max a couple dozen times, taking videos and photos, and never had an issue.

I also wash my phone under the tap regularly (weekly or more) because I spend lots of time in a grimy workshop for hobbies.

Only one data point but the waterproof aspect of modern phones is one of my absolute favorite developments.

Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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Post by chii » Tue, Jan 09, 2024, 5:16 AM UTC

Tommah wrote: post #12

I wonder how reliable this will be. Back in the summer, my mom plugged her iPhone in to charge, and it gave a warning saying that it couldn't charge because there was liquid in the charging port. However, the port was bone-dry, and there was no liquid anywhere near the phone. It turned out that the charger didn't like the extension cord that it was plugged into. I took the extension cord away, and the phone started c…

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Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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Post by dzhiurgis » Tue, Jan 09, 2024, 5:17 AM UTC

metadat wrote: post #23

gumby wrote: post #13

FWIW i just looked at the specs online and the iphone 15 pro is rated to IP68 while the ipad-pro and MacBook Air specs are silent on this.

My iPhone 13 mini was IP rated and died after the first dunk. All of my Android Galaxy SXX phones have survived tons worse.. repeatedly. I treat the new iPhone I had to buy as if it were made of porous glass. Edit: Thanks everyone for the additional data points!

My 13 Pro has drowned at least 3 or 4 times, still working. Also worth mentioning it's been case free and survived countless drops.

I don't understand why people put cases anymore.