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Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

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I didn't expect an announcement of the Supers this early in the year, nor did I expect them to be cheaper than the non-Super cards. I bought the 4080 recently with the thought that Nvidia's trend in the past 4 or 5 years has been to increase prices, so even if the Supers were announced this early in the year the performance increase would cost proportionally more money anyway.

Sucks for me, but overall I'm glad that Nvidia is getting prices under control to some extent.

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

#22

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Why?

With the current generation of text and image generators, 24GB is the sweet spot

I wouldn't be shocked if the 5090 is also the only one with 24GB. Seems like NVidia is trying their hardest to suppress memory increases.

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

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Why?

With the current generation of text and image generators, 24GB is the sweet spot

Agreed but there is a lot more ML out there than just LLMs. You can't solve everything with prose.

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

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The big difference with the 4070 Ti Super is that it's using the AD103 chip (with a full 256-bit memory bus and 16GB of VRAM) found in the 4080, which is a huge leap over the AD104 chip found in the 4070 Ti (non-Super), which only touts a 192-bit memory bus and 12GB of VRAM. While the TFLOPS of the Super variant does only see a ~10% increase as you note, memory bandwidth jumps by 42% and the memory capacity jumps by…

Appreciate the extra insight here! I hope for the sake of purchasers it is only 12% cost increase, but I have a suspicion if there's more than 12% extra value, we'll see it in the price

Just checked the CES announcement and updated my post to reflect that it actually has the same launch price that the 4070 Ti (non-Super) had! Amazing bargain!

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

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Since crypto has crashed so much and most of these are borderline useless for AI/ML, there's not likely to be too much of an issue. The MSRP is already massively marked up.

Considering the poor generational performance uplift the original 4000 series cards had vs the 3000 series - it almost seems like these super variants are what nVidia should have originally launched. :-/

Poor performance uplift? The 4080 is significantly faster than the 3090 with much lower power consumption!

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

#27
My 3080 laptop GPU can still play 99% of games at their highest settings. Or at least they did before the latest batch of nVidia drivers went to shit. It's not the hardware that's the problem. What's the point of upgrading to a 4-series when we're left with stuttering and defects from software issues?

EDIT: even people on the 4-series are experiencing it https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/game-ready-drive...

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

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Why?

With the current generation of text and image generators, 24GB is the sweet spot

many text generation models run on my 11G 1080Ti you can run quantized versions of these models if you aren't running it quantized, I'd say even 24 gig is not enough

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

#29
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I wonder why there are no comparisons to their other series 40x0 cards?

Likely, the improvement over 4000 cards is minimal, and they are marketing towards owners of 3000 (and older) cards to upgrade.

That said, I'm curious to know how they stack up against a 4090, and if these new cards can melt wires and burn down a house as easily.

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