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Re: Online Ruby Programming Course from Pragmatic Studio

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Post by doktrin »

hanibash wrote: post #20
doktrin wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm currently in the market for a class of this nature. If the bloc offering is similar to RailsTutors, why does it cost more than 6.5x as much ($3,000 vs. $450)? Based on the class descriptions, it looks like bloc.io lasts approximately twice as long (8 weeks vs. ~4). However, the first three weeks will be spent covering Michael Hartl's rails tutorial. I don't mean to be flip, but I am having a hard time determining…

Hi Doktrin, I'm also one of the guys tutoring at Bloc. We don't make any assumptions about your skill level. We'll take any motivated person, and come up with a plan that will challenge them. Whether or not that includes Hartl tutorial is actually up to the individual mentor teaching the cohort. We put a ton of time into each cohort. It is basically our full time job to make sure each and every person gets as much as…

Thanks for elaborating on your program, Hani. 15 weekly office hours is a great resource. I'm also glad to hear that your program can be tailored to the needs of the students. I'll doubtlessly have some more granular follow up questions, but will address them over email (if you prefer).

Re: Online Ruby Programming Course from Pragmatic Studio

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Post by cglee »

vijayr wrote: post #19
creekace wrote: post #12

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I took the Rails Tutors class in February. I can say that Chris and Kevin have structured the course very well. I am also currently around 70% through this Pragmatic Programmers course... another great investment. I'm making a career switch from advertising sales and the education I am receiving from the vast resources online is amazing. I would say for any newbie, learn the Ruby basics from Pragmatic Programmers fir…

Yes, Chris and Kevin did the course very well, I even met Chris once. Couldn't follow up after the course, but I enjoyed the course thoroughly. It was very affordable (was lucky to get into the first batch).

Thanks guys! We've improved the course a lot based on all the students' feedback. Very glad you enjoyed it, and drop me a line when you ship your project. We'd like to start featuring an "alumni showcase" of projects our students have built.

Re: Online Ruby Programming Course from Pragmatic Studio

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Post by sigzero »

andyakb wrote: post #6
petercooper wrote: post #4

There's quite a healthy ecosystem in this area now, it seems. Just some links: https://rubyoffrails.com/ http://owningrails.com/ http://www.codeschool.com/ http://railstutors.com/ http://www.rubyreloaded.com/ (disclaimer: mine!) http://rubylearning.org/class/ (free) http://www.buildingwebapps.com/learningrails (free) Probably should get together a list of these someplace actually!

are there comparable options for python? from my searching, I havent seen any as thorough as some of these.

O'Reilly has a certificate course. It is pretty good. I am almost done with the first section.

Wesley Chun has some videos out as well. Look on Amazon for those.

Re: Online Ruby Programming Course from Pragmatic Studio

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Post by zedshaw »

tjr wrote: post #14

I am curious: in what ways is an online course of this sort preferable to reading a book (plus doing exercises)? Is the "live" help really that much of a factor in learning the material?

They don't help with beginning programming topics because the primary thing beginners have to learn is reading and writing code. The videos mostly help beginners who have been convinced through "learning modality" marketing to fear reading and writing as a teaching technique. After that, if they aren't typing and reading they aren't learning to code.

Where videos help is with demonstrating visually dominant technique topics, like CSS layout, how to use Vim, how to change the path in Windows, how to run a debugger, etc.

Re: Online Ruby Programming Course from Pragmatic Studio

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Post by zedshaw »

zdgman wrote: post #5

I don't see how this can even compete with something like treehouse or code school. It's the same sort of online course that is being offered everywhere across the web and the price, in my opinion, is pretty outlandish.

There's a bubble in teaching programming right now. Anyone with any kind of content is trying to cash in.

Re: Online Ruby Programming Course from Pragmatic Studio

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Post by kaiwren »

petercooper wrote: post #4

There's quite a healthy ecosystem in this area now, it seems. Just some links: https://rubyoffrails.com/ http://owningrails.com/ http://www.codeschool.com/ http://railstutors.com/ http://www.rubyreloaded.com/ (disclaimer: mine!) http://rubylearning.org/class/ (free) http://www.buildingwebapps.com/learningrails (free) Probably should get together a list of these someplace actually!

Also, http://rubymonk.com (disclaimer: by my firm).

Currently has free courses with new, paid content coming shortly. $5 per month, all you can eat for access to the paid courses (free courses remain free). Course creators get royalties (and keep copyright, of course).

Re: Online Ruby Programming Course from Pragmatic Studio

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Post by petercooper »

andyakb wrote: post #6
petercooper wrote: post #4

There's quite a healthy ecosystem in this area now, it seems. Just some links: https://rubyoffrails.com/ http://owningrails.com/ http://www.codeschool.com/ http://railstutors.com/ http://www.rubyreloaded.com/ (disclaimer: mine!) http://rubylearning.org/class/ (free) http://www.buildingwebapps.com/learningrails (free) Probably should get together a list of these someplace actually!

are there comparable options for python? from my searching, I havent seen any as thorough as some of these.

http://www.udemy.com/learn-python-the-hard-way/

Re: Online Ruby Programming Course from Pragmatic Studio

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Post by SlyBriGuy »

hanibash wrote: post #20
doktrin wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm currently in the market for a class of this nature. If the bloc offering is similar to RailsTutors, why does it cost more than 6.5x as much ($3,000 vs. $450)? Based on the class descriptions, it looks like bloc.io lasts approximately twice as long (8 weeks vs. ~4). However, the first three weeks will be spent covering Michael Hartl's rails tutorial. I don't mean to be flip, but I am having a hard time determining…

Hi Doktrin, I'm also one of the guys tutoring at Bloc. We don't make any assumptions about your skill level. We'll take any motivated person, and come up with a plan that will challenge them. Whether or not that includes Hartl tutorial is actually up to the individual mentor teaching the cohort. We put a ton of time into each cohort. It is basically our full time job to make sure each and every person gets as much as…

What is the start date for the next class?
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