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Royal Navy forced to recruit for tob job on social media

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Re: Royal Navy forced to recruit for tob job on social media

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Post by LargeTomato »

times_trw wrote: post #17
bell-cot wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A whole lot of (mostly-)little things, over the past half-ish century, have lead them to seriously doubt the existing social order. Volunteering for military service is something of an all-in endorsement of that order. Though it doesn't help that British kids have felt no visceral "we're at risk from $Powerful_Enemy!" fears since ~1990.

One has to wonder if a majority of lower class able bodied men would particularly care if an enemy took over.

Wasn't the lower class overwhelmingly pro brexit? They are xenophobic.

Re: Royal Navy forced to recruit for tob job on social media

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Post by thanksgiving »

jsiepkes wrote: post #8
csmattryder wrote: post #5

> Generation Z is not joining the armed forces in the way my generation did Why aren't the kids joining the military? Did something happen in the last few decades that made them rethink it as a career option, possibly?

Didn't stop them from joining companies such as Facebook, Uber, etc. though...

Unlike the military, you can quit anytime from these companies.

Re: Royal Navy forced to recruit for tob job on social media

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Post by kredd »

csmattryder wrote: post #5

> Generation Z is not joining the armed forces in the way my generation did Why aren't the kids joining the military? Did something happen in the last few decades that made them rethink it as a career option, possibly?

In addition to all the comments, it’s way easier to see what “army life” looks like nowadays from videos. Sprinkle some real footage from recent wars, to see the worst case scenarios, I’m not sure how I can ever be convinced to be a part of it.

Re: Royal Navy forced to recruit for tob job on social media

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Post by edent »

Isn't this a bit of a non-story? There's no evidence that they were forced to do anything. Nearly every senior job is advertised somewhere.

For example - you can apply to be Puisne Judge of the Supreme Court of Gibraltar if you like https://apply.judicialappointments.digital/vacancy/lQlCzxeR4...

The Royal Navy seems to advertise all levels of jobs on LinkedIn - and wider.

Surely having an open and fair advertisement is better than finding someone you went to school with and discreetly tapping them on the shoulder?

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Post by diggan »

csmattryder wrote: post #5

> Generation Z is not joining the armed forces in the way my generation did Why aren't the kids joining the military? Did something happen in the last few decades that made them rethink it as a career option, possibly?

> Why aren't the kids joining the military? Did something happen in the last few decades that made them rethink it as a career option, possibly?

Wouldn't the right question to answer be why anyone would want to join the military? At best you get an average/below-average salary, at worst you get sent to fight in wars. Seems like very little benefits for a lot of risks.

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Post by times_trw »

LargeTomato wrote: post #21
times_trw wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One has to wonder if a majority of lower class able bodied men would particularly care if an enemy took over.

Wasn't the lower class overwhelmingly pro brexit? They are xenophobic.

One only needs to look at the Glorious Revolution to see what a hostile takeover of Britain by a foreign power which pays lip service to Britishness would look like.

Also one rather needs ones army to be xenophobic, a xenophilic army would be somewhat poor at its job.

I've been musing that the majority of ~canon fodder~ lower class working men are so destructively disengaged from main stream western culture that a new branch of Islam with 19th century western sensibilities - nationalism, nativism, chauvinism, etc. - would have very little trouble in taking over.

Re: Royal Navy forced to recruit for tob job on social media

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Post by wharvle »

diggan wrote: post #26
csmattryder wrote: post #5

> Generation Z is not joining the armed forces in the way my generation did Why aren't the kids joining the military? Did something happen in the last few decades that made them rethink it as a career option, possibly?

> Why aren't the kids joining the military? Did something happen in the last few decades that made them rethink it as a career option, possibly? Wouldn't the right question to answer be why anyone would want to join the military? At best you get an average/below-average salary, at worst you get sent to fight in wars. Seems like very little benefits for a lot of risks.

It’s the surest way to access European-like benefits for the lower class, in the US. Housing (for your family, too), healthcare (ditto), retirement, free education, paid vacation (if not much of it). Pretty good schools for your kids, mostly.

But in most of the rest of the OECD, like Britain? Yeah, not sure.

Re: Royal Navy forced to recruit for tob job on social media

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Post by poisonborz »

wharvle wrote: post #29
diggan wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why aren't the kids joining the military? Did something happen in the last few decades that made them rethink it as a career option, possibly? Wouldn't the right question to answer be why anyone would want to join the military? At best you get an average/below-average salary, at worst you get sent to fight in wars. Seems like very little benefits for a lot of risks.

It’s the surest way to access European-like benefits for the lower class, in the US. Housing (for your family, too), healthcare (ditto), retirement, free education, paid vacation (if not much of it). Pretty good schools for your kids, mostly. But in most of the rest of the OECD, like Britain? Yeah, not sure.

Instead maybe simply emigrate to Europe?
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