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Operation Triangulation What You Get When Attack iPhones of Researchers [video]

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Re: Operation Triangulation What You Get When Attack iPhones of Researchers [video]

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Post by codeflo »

HybridCurve wrote: post #18
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you look at home media, every major development has been Russian. Software for cracking Blu-rays? Russia was first. Software for cracking 4K UHD Blu-rays? Russia was first. Software for cracking Nintendo Switch games (DBI)? Russia was first. The new flash-cart for the Switch, assuming it's legit? Russia. The only hacker left who can crack Denuvo video games? Russian.

Necessity is the mother of all invention. This could just be related to socioeconomic factors.

A dysfunctional criminal justice system probably doesn't hurt either.

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Post by SpaghettiCthulu »

tptacek wrote: post #19
janice1999 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Israel is obviously complicated They also have a large and profitable industry selling state of the art tools to authoritarian regimes/dictators to target democracy activists and journalists.

So does every other industrialized country.

Source? I've not heard of an NSO Group equivalent in any other country.

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Post by SpaghettiCthulu »

codeflo wrote: post #21
HybridCurve wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Necessity is the mother of all invention. This could just be related to socioeconomic factors.

A dysfunctional criminal justice system probably doesn't hurt either.

> A dysfunctional criminal justice system probably doesn't hurt either.

Actually, I would argue that a system that allows DRM cracking is far more functional than the one we have in the west.

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Post by codeflo »

SpaghettiCthulu wrote: post #23
codeflo wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A dysfunctional criminal justice system probably doesn't hurt either.

> A dysfunctional criminal justice system probably doesn't hurt either. Actually, I would argue that a system that allows DRM cracking is far more functional than the one we have in the west.

You're comment history doesn't suggest that you're a Russian troll, so my interpretation is that you're making a pointed remark that you either don't really mean or perhaps haven't fully thought through. So without meaning any offense, let's pick this apart.

To be fair, I disagree with my country's cracking laws as well. We should do better here, the right to one's data is an important freedom. I support the fight for saner copyright laws.

But let's also be real: There's no universe where that injustice somehow outweighs the entirety of human rights violations that go on inside Russia. Persecution of minorities, decriminalization of domestic violence, torture in prisons. Just to name a few.

Western copyright laws aren't good. But there are worse fates in life than not being able to watch old blu-rays.

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Post by tptacek »

SpaghettiCthulu wrote: post #22
tptacek wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So does every other industrialized country.

Source? I've not heard of an NSO Group equivalent in any other country.

How much attention do you pay to the space? (I'm asking sincerely.)

Re: Operation Triangulation What You Get When Attack iPhones of Researchers [video]

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Post by dang »

rollulus wrote: post #11

See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38783112

Thanks! Expanded list:

Kaspersky discloses iPhone hardware feature vital in Operation Triangulation - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38801275 - Dec 2023 (52 comments)

4-year campaign backdoored iPhones using advanced exploit - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38784073 - Dec 2023 (7 comments)

Operation Triangulation: What you get when attack iPhones of researchers - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38783112 - Dec 2023 (371 comments)

How to catch a wild triangle - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38034269 - Oct 2023 (43 comments)

Scan iPhone backups for traces of compromise by “Operation Triangulation” - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36164340 - June 2023 (153 comments)

Targeted attack on our management with the Triangulation Trojan - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36161392 - June 2023 (126 comments)

“Clickless” iOS exploits infect Kaspersky iPhones with never-before-seen malware - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36154455 - June 2023 (41 comments)

Operation Triangulation: iOS devices targeted with previously unknown malware - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36151220 - June 2023 (31 comments)

Others?

Re: Operation Triangulation What You Get When Attack iPhones of Researchers [video]

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Post by SpaghettiCthulu »

tptacek wrote: post #25
SpaghettiCthulu wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Source? I've not heard of an NSO Group equivalent in any other country.

How much attention do you pay to the space? (I'm asking sincerely.)

Perhaps not enough. I've certainly heard of shady companies, but I simply am not aware of a direct analogue to NSO Group. I am curious if you know of one!

Re: Operation Triangulation What You Get When Attack iPhones of Researchers [video]

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Post by SpaghettiCthulu »

codeflo wrote: post #24
SpaghettiCthulu wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A dysfunctional criminal justice system probably doesn't hurt either. Actually, I would argue that a system that allows DRM cracking is far more functional than the one we have in the west.

You're comment history doesn't suggest that you're a Russian troll, so my interpretation is that you're making a pointed remark that you either don't really mean or perhaps haven't fully thought through. So without meaning any offense, let's pick this apart. To be fair, I disagree with my country's cracking laws as well. We should do better here, the right to one's data is an important freedom. I support the fight fo…

I was intentionally ignoring any other aspect of their criminal justice system in writing that comment. I absolutely condemn Russia for many reasons, including their human rights violations.
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