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Re: 2024's public domain is a banger

#21

This is the third "happy public domain day" post I've seen here, and they've all been remarkably sparse when it comes to actually listing what comes into the public domain. Maybe a dozen or so books, I know they can't list everything but I'd like to see at least a few hundred.

> fun fact: most books published in the US before 1964 are in the public domain

https://www.crummy.com/2019/07/22/0>

Submitted to HN 2019 August 02. 62 comments. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20591071>

Re: 2024's public domain is a banger

#22

What can you (and would want to) do with Mickey Mouse that you couldn't do yesterday?

Anything you want! As long as it can't confuse consumers into thinking it came from Disney. And it has to be based on the 1938 version.

It'll be interesting to see the first lawsuits over this, because there's a lot of grey area!

Re: 2024's public domain is a banger

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I wonder if YouTube has a department that keeps track of what is coming into the public domain in which country at what date. Or will their systems be out of date and still flag copyright violations on this content?

They've got no incentive to prioritize free use over protecting corporate interests. And evidence shows this holds in practice, when it's not necessary for them to. Welcome to "regulation by free market" (in other words, regulation by incumbent private interests)

Which means governments need to incentivise such priorities. Find a government that promotes their citizens above neoptistic and/or commercial interests and I'm sure they'll get right on to it ...

Re: 2024's public domain is a banger

#24

Copyright is broken and needs reform. Imagine a world where people can freely access learning materials. Sure they can do it now through „illegal“ channels but many don’t and that is negatively impacting all of humanity.

Question: Even books written today will be free for all in your ideal world?

Re: 2024's public domain is a banger

#27

Copyright is broken and needs reform. Imagine a world where people can freely access learning materials. Sure they can do it now through „illegal“ channels but many don’t and that is negatively impacting all of humanity.

People would also put less time and effort into creating learning materials. If someone wants to create freely accessible learning materials, they can do so today. And some do!

Re: 2024's public domain is a banger

#28

What can you (and would want to) do with Mickey Mouse that you couldn't do yesterday?

Anything you want! As long as it can't confuse consumers into thinking it came from Disney. And it has to be based on the 1938 version. It'll be interesting to see the first lawsuits over this, because there's a lot of grey area!

But the question is what do you want, not what I want.

Re: 2024's public domain is a banger

#29

This is the third "happy public domain day" post I've seen here, and they've all been remarkably sparse when it comes to actually listing what comes into the public domain. Maybe a dozen or so books, I know they can't list everything but I'd like to see at least a few hundred.

I think it's because the list just isn't all that interesting… are you as hyped about all the new works based on Virginia Wolfe's Orlando as I am? Academically, it's interesting to think over the media that would already be in public domain had Sonny Bono and Clinton not sold us out… basically everything through World War II, and (since all anyone brings up is Steamboat Willie ) all the big foundational Disney movies…

In a way that means the copyright lobbyists have won. You don't find the list interesting now, but 14+14 years after 1928 you would have. A lot of it would still be fresh in our collective minds. Now in 2024, most of it is dead to us.

What about 14+14 years ago (1996)... can you think of any music/movies from the mid-90s or before that would be interesting to remix? I sure can. But very few people are still going to care in 1996+95 = the year 2091.

Re: 2024's public domain is a banger

#30
Related ongoing thread:

Happy Public Domain Day - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38833208

Also:

Disney's earliest Mickey Mouse enters public domain as US copyright expires - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38830264 - Jan 2024 (162 comments)

January 1, 2024 is Public Domain Day - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38823973 - Dec 2023 (15 comments)

Copyright for original Mickey Mouse persona to run out 1 January 2024 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38799484 - Dec 2023 (10 comments)

Mickey Mouse to Enter Public Domain: "It's Finally Happening'" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38737164 - Dec 2023 (7 comments)

Mickey, Disney, and the public domain: A 95-year love triangle - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38678021 - Dec 2023 (208 comments)

Public Domain Day 2024 Is Coming: Here's What to Know - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38586978 - Dec 2023 (6 comments)

The Mickey Mouse Copyright Runs Out in 2024 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36559037 - July 2023 (64 comments)

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