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Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Post by westurner »

TIL about various things for rpm-ostree distros:

gnome-randr-rust: https://github.com/maxwellainatchi/gnome-randr-rust :

> `xrandr` for Gnome/wayland, on distros that don't support `wlr-randr`

Kernel-fsync: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/sentry/kernel-fsync/

gnome-vrr: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/kylegospo/gnome-vrr/ :

  gsettings set org.gnome.mutter experimental-features "['variable-refresh-rate']"
obs-vkcapture: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/kylegospo/obs-vkcapt...

system76-scheduler: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/kylegospo/system76-s...

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Post by xyproto »

xvector wrote: post #19
KyleGospo wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fedora actually defaults to BTRFS, in the case of SteamOS the system is BTRFS out of the box, and only home and the SD card are ext4. Main benefits are compression, and increased read speeds from compressed drives, especially from the MicroSD. BTRFS de-duplication also solves the issue of wine prefixes with similar dependencies taking up more space than needed.

Why is it not the default? Compatibility issues with Windows games somehow?

BTRFS is probably mature and stable by now, but it's been a rocky road with several premature declarations of maturity.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Post by KyleGospo »

janice1999 wrote: post #20
KyleGospo wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, I'm the original creator of this project. I'm happy to say the motivation is purely organic, we've no backing and have never received donations of any kind, project is totally out of pocket. Originally I wanted something akin to SteamOS that allowed packages to be installed and maintained through updates, and knew Fedora could offer that after using Silverblue for about a year, and it just kept evolving and growi…

When you say "we" do you mean other members of the Fedora community? Do any of you work at RedHat? Just wondering how you got a complex project like this up and running.

"We" is myself and two others that call ourselves maintainers, and the group at Universal Blue who brought us into their circle and shared knowledge. My personal repo at https://GitHub.com/KyleGospo/Bazzite is a time capsule of the project at it's beginning when it was only me.

Universal blue has a ton of different people contributing to it, but there's no corporate backing there either.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Post by KyleGospo »

xvector wrote: post #19
KyleGospo wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fedora actually defaults to BTRFS, in the case of SteamOS the system is BTRFS out of the box, and only home and the SD card are ext4. Main benefits are compression, and increased read speeds from compressed drives, especially from the MicroSD. BTRFS de-duplication also solves the issue of wine prefixes with similar dependencies taking up more space than needed.

Why is it not the default? Compatibility issues with Windows games somehow?

I can only speculate Valve's reasoning, but there are a very select few games that require actual case folding and not the simulated case folding that wine offers. I know of literally only one.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Post by attentive »

johnchristopher wrote: post #14

Oooh, looks cool ! I was just googling for something like "pc with steamdeck like specs" because I don't need the portability, I can't stand fan noise but I'd like Steam's ease of use. Now there is a path to a "normal"/quiet/dedicated PC to easily run games. But I suppose there won't be optimizations for any combinations of GPU/CPU/RAM like Valve and AMD do for the Steamdeck ? Also: > - Comes with patches from SteamO…

compression is good, checksums are good.

It's a shame other FS's don't have it.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Post by KyleGospo »

attentive wrote: post #26

10Gb of "everything is a Flatpak" isn't exciting.

The only flatpaks here are ones installed by the user after setup, or ones installed by Fedora (Firefox for instance, you don't want your browser updating only when your OS does).

Steam, gamescope, and nearly every other listed feature are native packages.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Post by freedomben »

KyleGospo wrote: post #25
xvector wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it not the default? Compatibility issues with Windows games somehow?

I can only speculate Valve's reasoning, but there are a very select few games that require actual case folding and not the simulated case folding that wine offers. I know of literally only one.

Can you help me with some searchable terms for learning about case folding? Is that something specific to games? Specific to disk formats?

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Post by KyleGospo »

freedomben wrote: post #29
KyleGospo wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can only speculate Valve's reasoning, but there are a very select few games that require actual case folding and not the simulated case folding that wine offers. I know of literally only one.

Can you help me with some searchable terms for learning about case folding? Is that something specific to games? Specific to disk formats?

It's a file system feature, all it means to be case folding is that capital and non-capital letters are treated the same, as NTFS does.

All Linux filesystems will by default allow "TEST" and "test" and "Test" to exist in the same folder, which no Windows application is ever intended to handle. Wine works around this by default.

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