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Given your stance, if a murderer runs in your house then you'll understand when the police break the door down and kill you and everyone inside right?
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So as long as it‘s just a few thousand civilians being killed, and someone calls that genocide, it‘s ok to censor that? That‘s a pretty cynic view.
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> A lot of Palestinian content descends straight into hyperbole. People have somehow been convinced a small amount of civilians being killed relative to the whole population is somehow a “genocide”. This is the consequence of totally unmoderated content.
A genocide is the indiscriminate distruction of a population, that is exactly what Israel (with the support of the USA) is doing to Palestine.
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"People have somehow been convinced a small amount of civilians being killed relative to the whole population is somehow a “genocide”" Per UN definition[1]: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: - Killing members of the group; - Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members…
For contrast is there a conflict where people have been killed that doesn't meet that definition of genocide?
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"People have somehow been convinced a small amount of civilians being killed relative to the whole population is somehow a “genocide”" Per UN definition[1]: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: - Killing members of the group; - Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members…
Surely there's a scale?
Technically, any "killing a member of a group" would be a genocide under this definition.
Even if someone commits a mass murder against a group, we typically call it mass murder or a hate crime -- not genocide.
So there has to be some idea of what genocide is -- what is the scale, what is the intent? Is it to wipe out a people? Or is it something else?
25,000 death is a lot. I'd say its a war crime. An atrocity, perhaps. But a genocide? Against a population of 2 million? Idk. Maybe?
It seems that we have no common definition of the word
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"People have somehow been convinced a small amount of civilians being killed relative to the whole population is somehow a “genocide”" Per UN definition[1]: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: - Killing members of the group; - Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members…
> with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group
What is your proof of the intent?
Hamas, on the other hand, make their genocidal intent very clear, every chance they get. "then what is a genocide?" That is.
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#28What was it we used to hear? Their platform, their rules? The fact is people are unprincipled and will either complain about free speech or will clamor for it, or complain about censorship or clamor for it depending on point of view. I wish people were principled and stood on principle and not what dog they have in a fight.
Sadly I agree with this. It seems like the best summary of how most people treat free speech is basically:
"If my side is the underdog, talk about how important it is and complain that we're being censored, and if my side is winning, talk about how it's not necessary and those people can go elsewhere"
It was extremely obvious when Twitter was bought by Musk and the rules changed to favour far right wing content and rhetoric. Suddenly all the folks talking about that XKDC comic and no free speech on a private platform had a very different tune once their side was the one getting banned or censored there...
If you disagree with how a platform is run, go somewhere else.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
"People have somehow been convinced a small amount of civilians being killed relative to the whole population is somehow a “genocide”" Per UN definition[1]: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: - Killing members of the group; - Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members…
IDF doesn't have intent to destroy palestinian group, they have intent to destroy Hamas, so probably you only can call it genocide against Hamas. Genocide was in Ukraine for example, when Russia targeted powerplants during winter, which didn't have any military value.
That is propaganda for the west. If it where the case they would not be dropping 2000 pound bombs on civilians [1].
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fP-J8m-BF0 [NY Times: Visual Evidence Shows Israel Dropped Bombs Where It Ordered Gaza Civilians to Go ]
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"People have somehow been convinced a small amount of civilians being killed relative to the whole population is somehow a “genocide”" Per UN definition[1]: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: - Killing members of the group; - Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members…
The target is Hamas. Some innocents are dying, but the intent isn’t to deliberately kill them. And there is no evidence any of those other criteria are even happening.