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US utility firms offer builders cash/trips to fit new homes with gas appliances

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I won't speak to cooking. But, gas central air heaters are much cheaper to operate than heat pumps in Phoenix, AZ. I wish it wasn't so environmentally speaking. But from a cost point of view, its better to use natural gas than electricity.

How?

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This is surprising because gas cooking is considered a "premium" feature here in NC, and people look for it during their house search. Personally, it is a better cooking experience than electric. Induction might be the best, but it's still expensive.

It's the opposite where I am. People tend to avoid gas. I've even seen people go to the extent of having gas service physically removed from houses they've bought.

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I don't know about your specific circumstances but for Indian cooking, gas is just miles ahead. We have electric at home, It just takes forever to cook anything and it's hard to control the heat. Our friends with gas cooktops get done in half the time.

Are you using an induction stovetop?

No. Just plain electric.

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For water heating specifically, get an electric kettle. They are optimized for boiling water, much faster than gas OR induction on a stove.

Microwave works pretty good too.

This has certain downsides depending on the container you are using.

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I just moved from a home with induction range to one with gas range and I feel like I am on crazy pills waiting for anything to happen now. I get that things like extreme control and wok cooking are a bit difficult on induction, but at least it's ~possible. A consumer gas range simply doesnt put enough effective power into the cookware. This isnt only about boiling water quickly. This is about getting a pan hot enoug…

> A consumer gas range simply doesnt put enough effective power into the cookware.

I like both gas and induction but are you really comparing the equivalent equipment in your anecdote?

The cheapest induction range on us-appliance.com (FCFI3083AS) is $1000, and has a 3600w "boost" burner, or ~12K BTUs

A $1000 gas range from the same company (Frigidaire, FCRG3062AB) has an 18K BTU burner. That's significantly more power.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you using an induction stovetop?

No. Just plain electric.

OK. That is indeed a sucky experience.

The only thing induction doesn't do well is cooking with things like woks, where you have a curved surface that you want to heat evenly.

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I've never heard of electric being faster at boiling water than gas. You either have a very poor gas stove or you moved to a much higher elevation where boiling water is just flat-out takes longer.

I think you may not have used induction.

Yeah, when I replaced my crap electric hob with induction I literally sent a video to my mum boiling a pan of water to show how crazy fast it was.

I'm in the UK though, maybe it's something to do with having 230v supply?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For water heating specifically, get an electric kettle. They are optimized for boiling water, much faster than gas OR induction on a stove.

Microwave works pretty good too.

Have to be careful about super heated water and flash boiling.

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This is surprising because gas cooking is considered a "premium" feature here in NC, and people look for it during their house search. Personally, it is a better cooking experience than electric. Induction might be the best, but it's still expensive.

That might be a bit of propaganda from the gas industry over the last 50 years. I heard similar but when i dug into it appeared to be bunk… i cook on electric now and love it.

> That might be a bit of propaganda from the gas industry over the last 50 years

What a crazy conspiracy theory. It assumes electric companies and appliance makers do no marketing of their own.

Gas cooking is obviously a more luxurious experience and anyone who says otherwise has not tried to make a hollandaise sauce on each.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That might be a bit of propaganda from the gas industry over the last 50 years. I heard similar but when i dug into it appeared to be bunk… i cook on electric now and love it.

I don't know about your specific circumstances but for Indian cooking, gas is just miles ahead. We have electric at home, It just takes forever to cook anything and it's hard to control the heat. Our friends with gas cooktops get done in half the time.

This might be a problem with your range. I bought a house recently with a new flipper-grade electric range and the first time I used the large burner on it, the amount of heat it put out completely eclipsed what the range in my previous apartment did. The only difference is that the new one has a glass top. On the high setting I can't even bring my hand within 6 inches of the burner once its up to temperature.
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