It’s worth noting that use of NEHotspotHelper requires a special entitlement (com.apple.developer.networking.HotspotHelper) that you have to apply for, and presumably Apple won’t grant unless your app has a legitimate need for it. That said, this maybe shows an incompatibility between Apple’s privacy strategy and “super-apps” like WeChat and AliPay. When a company shoves all functionality into one app, that app sudde…
Apple allows some iOS apps to track user locations via lists of nearby SSIDs
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Re: Apple allows some iOS apps to track user locations via lists of nearby SSIDs
#22It’s worth noting that use of NEHotspotHelper requires a special entitlement (com.apple.developer.networking.HotspotHelper) that you have to apply for, and presumably Apple won’t grant unless your app has a legitimate need for it. That said, this maybe shows an incompatibility between Apple’s privacy strategy and “super-apps” like WeChat and AliPay. When a company shoves all functionality into one app, that app sudde…
I nope out and if the functionality of the app is trashed, so goes the app....
Google Maps constantly hounding me to turn on precision location services, asking me if I am navigating for a friend and to allow access to my contacts... Wow, no.
Re: Apple allows some iOS apps to track user locations via lists of nearby SSIDs
#23It’s worth noting that use of NEHotspotHelper requires a special entitlement (com.apple.developer.networking.HotspotHelper) that you have to apply for, and presumably Apple won’t grant unless your app has a legitimate need for it. That said, this maybe shows an incompatibility between Apple’s privacy strategy and “super-apps” like WeChat and AliPay. When a company shoves all functionality into one app, that app sudde…
Musk wants Twitter to be a super app. https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/26/23808796/elon-musks-x-eve...
Re: Apple allows some iOS apps to track user locations via lists of nearby SSIDs
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks. The docs confirm that an entitlement is required to call this API — still does not make clear to me whether the presence of the entitlement brings up a prompt allowing the user to deny the use of the API.
If it does, it would be for network, not location. Per the rules, this isn’t a location api, except it actually is. Iirc Android has always asked for location to enable Bluetooth, I wonder if there are similar apis there?
Re: Apple allows some iOS apps to track user locations via lists of nearby SSIDs
#25It’s worth noting that use of NEHotspotHelper requires a special entitlement (com.apple.developer.networking.HotspotHelper) that you have to apply for, and presumably Apple won’t grant unless your app has a legitimate need for it. That said, this maybe shows an incompatibility between Apple’s privacy strategy and “super-apps” like WeChat and AliPay. When a company shoves all functionality into one app, that app sudde…
Re: Apple allows some iOS apps to track user locations via lists of nearby SSIDs
#26FYI, that API requires entitlements to be used, which are only available if you request them from Apple and justify their use. It's not a general-purpose API any app can use.
Re: Apple allows some iOS apps to track user locations via lists of nearby SSIDs
#27It’s worth noting that use of NEHotspotHelper requires a special entitlement (com.apple.developer.networking.HotspotHelper) that you have to apply for, and presumably Apple won’t grant unless your app has a legitimate need for it. That said, this maybe shows an incompatibility between Apple’s privacy strategy and “super-apps” like WeChat and AliPay. When a company shoves all functionality into one app, that app sudde…
> com.apple.developer.networking.HotspotHelper Where do you revoke this entitlement on iOS? Settings → Privacy & Security → Local Network? Or is this something else?
Re: Apple allows some iOS apps to track user locations via lists of nearby SSIDs
#28I appreciated this disclosure. The English was still a bit clunky - but it was a great use of the technology to open up the article to a wider audience. It felt sincere to me.
Re: Apple allows some iOS apps to track user locations via lists of nearby SSIDs
#29TL;DR: Apps can access the nearby Wi-Fi hotspot SSID and MAC addresses through an API that is intended to help with connecting to hotspots. Then they can use this info to look-up in databases that collect SSIDs based on their locations. Seems like a valid concern, though the author's writing style can be off putting since has a tone with an agenda. However, AFAIK apps need to declare the use of this API and have a go…
completely agree, I read 2 sentences and closed it.
Re: Apple allows some iOS apps to track user locations via lists of nearby SSIDs
#30TL;DR: Apps can access the nearby Wi-Fi hotspot SSID and MAC addresses through an API that is intended to help with connecting to hotspots. Then they can use this info to look-up in databases that collect SSIDs based on their locations. Seems like a valid concern, though the author's writing style can be off putting since has a tone with an agenda. However, AFAIK apps need to declare the use of this API and have a go…