Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real • Hacker News Board

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by Pxtl » Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 4:47 PM UTC

Occasionally I go back to FB to see if any friends and family have posted and like 90% of the feed is "recommended for you" shovelfulls of garbage for infinite scrolling. Worst off, there's a kind of anxiety about even pausing to look at anything on there out of fear that FB will decide I like that particular kind of garbage and show me more of it.

Most of the garbage I get is innocuous - silly comics, AI generated movie posters of like "what if Wes Anderson made the Marvel movies" that I tend to block. Occasionally it's aggressive right-wing memes (and it's never "personal responsibility" or "low taxes" stuff, always "this is the group we hate today and how stupid and annoying they are").

Still, I occasionally find myself absentmindedly infinite-scrolling, just because I started there looking for news from old friends.

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by tommica » Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 4:48 PM UTC

usrusr wrote: post #19

kimi wrote: post #11

Facebook has become a cesspool of clickbaits. Less that 1/3 of my feed is people I know (most of which quitted posting anything years ago) or groups I subscribed to - the rest is literally spam, as in meat that's been ground finely and repackaged in a thousands ways. The result is a general sense of nausea.

This. And I keep staring at it, under the excuse of a faint hope that it might perhaps build partial immunity to attention dump feeds that aren't yet quite as terrible (and therefore more dangerous)

And hitting your head is a great way to improve your neck muscles.

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by toss1 » Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 4:49 PM UTC

pavel_lishin wrote: post #7

goles wrote: post #2

While this may be a particularly dangerous way of thinking[1], it might be good that everything on the internet is becoming obviously fake, AI-generated junk. So that peoples attitude toward things that are real or borderline but are manipulated by bad actors, whatever their motivations may be, also lose some of their influence over the public. And (hopefully) the public becomes more skeptical about everything on the…

Sure, but the flip-side is that the truth becomes harder to ferret out as well.

That is the literal plan of disinformation campaigns. The few who actually believe the BS is merely a bonus.

The real goal is to get people to give up on finding the truth. At that point, they become easy to manipulate (because there is no outside standard of facts to work around).

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by MrDarcy » Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 4:49 PM UTC

philomath_mn wrote: post #15

I wonder if we will get to a point where the web is so saturated with this junk that the web itself starts to lose its luster. If AI can dream up a million impressive wood carvings, it seems like the real carving I saw in person is the only one that is actually interesting.

We blew past that point around 2015.

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by I_Am_Nous » Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 4:51 PM UTC

CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #14

pavel_lishin wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but the flip-side is that the truth becomes harder to ferret out as well.

Maybe it's time to stop caring so much about things on the internet and focus on the truth that is in front of you, the real things.

I wish we could get other people to agree, the internet was great until it started leaking out into real life and affecting day to day existence. The internet is a meta-reality that keeps asserting itself into our perceived reality and convinces people it should be paid attention to.

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by Ajedi32 » Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 4:51 PM UTC

Here's one thing I don't get; why did the content farms bother creating all those AI-generated variations when they could have just as easily just used the real photo? Does Facebook have some kind of repost detector that this circumvents?

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by cubefox » Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 4:51 PM UTC

philomath_mn wrote: post #15

I wonder if we will get to a point where the web is so saturated with this junk that the web itself starts to lose its luster. If AI can dream up a million impressive wood carvings, it seems like the real carving I saw in person is the only one that is actually interesting.

Perhaps the real wood carving is also no longer interesting, because you already saw so many (fake ones) before.

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by JAlexoid » Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 4:52 PM UTC

kimi wrote: post #11

Facebook has become a cesspool of clickbaits. Less that 1/3 of my feed is people I know (most of which quitted posting anything years ago) or groups I subscribed to - the rest is literally spam, as in meat that's been ground finely and repackaged in a thousands ways. The result is a general sense of nausea.

There is some config, where you set your feed to be your friends and similar.

I use Facebook only because the town groups are all there. It's the local forum board, and barely anything else for me at this point.

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by CrzyLngPwd » Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 4:52 PM UTC

usrusr wrote: post #20

CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's time to stop caring so much about things on the internet and focus on the truth that is in front of you, the real things.

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You can't do anything about it aside from getting stressed at your device.

How would you feel if you were now getting stressed at a chatbot?

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by CrzyLngPwd » Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 4:52 PM UTC

I_Am_Nous wrote: post #25

CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's time to stop caring so much about things on the internet and focus on the truth that is in front of you, the real things.

I wish we could get other people to agree, the internet was great until it started leaking out into real life and affecting day to day existence. The internet is a meta-reality that keeps asserting itself into our perceived reality and convinces people it should be paid attention to.

Amen to that!