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Re: Cloudflare is experiencing elevated 5xx responses

#21

Apropos nothing, I found out today that bash.org died. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37295238 was the last I was able to find about it, and it's the top google search result. I've been thinking of the best way to make a website that won't die when I die. It seems like a hard problem. I was originally going to just trust that Github Pages will be around forever, but I'm not so sure anymore. Running your own ser…

> I've been thinking of the best way to make a website that won't die when I die

It's said that most people look at a painting in a gallery for fewer than 30 seconds. I'd be willing to guess that people are going to look at an old HTML document even less than that (not to mention web scrapers which will be the most likely to uncover an old page)

There is no guarantee that the web services, companies, technologies, or even the Internet itself will stick around forever. Everything dies. The point, however, isn't to try to leave a permanent mark somewhere that says "I was here". Instead, one should nurture a sense of stewardship for newer generations to help instill them with good values that they will carry forwards in turn

Re: Cloudflare is experiencing elevated 5xx responses

#22

Discord is having issues right now, unsure if it's related. - Investigating - We are working to correct an issue that is causing some servers to be degraded and unavailable. - Update - We are continuing to investigate this issue.

+1 can't access any Discord servers

Re: Cloudflare is experiencing elevated 5xx responses

#23

Apropos nothing, I found out today that bash.org died. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37295238 was the last I was able to find about it, and it's the top google search result. I've been thinking of the best way to make a website that won't die when I die. It seems like a hard problem. I was originally going to just trust that Github Pages will be around forever, but I'm not so sure anymore. Running your own ser…

Even if your page lasted 100 years, your cert wouldn’t. Who knows what DNS, or the equivalent to IP looks like in the 22nd century.

Cloud providers have automated cert renewal.

Re: Cloudflare is experiencing elevated 5xx responses

#24

Apropos nothing, I found out today that bash.org died. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37295238 was the last I was able to find about it, and it's the top google search result. I've been thinking of the best way to make a website that won't die when I die. It seems like a hard problem. I was originally going to just trust that Github Pages will be around forever, but I'm not so sure anymore. Running your own ser…

> I've been thinking of the best way to make a website that won't die when I die.

I've spent a lot of time thinking about the same, and eventually had to ask myself: why do I care? (This is just my personal reflection, not an indictment of your goals. I'm a fatalist.)

If I have to go to the trouble of setting up a 100-year trust to maintain a digital presence after my death because nobody else finds what I have to say compelling enough to archive on its own merit, is it worth preserving? Or am I just wasting my time, adding more debris to float around in [cyber]space?

Blockchain would have been useful here. Everyone could share in the storage of collective, immutable history. But all of it is lost when some trillionaire inevitably decides to start a competing, incompatible product with a flashier UI.

Re: Cloudflare is experiencing elevated 5xx responses

#25

Apropos nothing, I found out today that bash.org died. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37295238 was the last I was able to find about it, and it's the top google search result. I've been thinking of the best way to make a website that won't die when I die. It seems like a hard problem. I was originally going to just trust that Github Pages will be around forever, but I'm not so sure anymore. Running your own ser…

https://posthaven.com/

Says it supports full HTML theming so you could have ~arbitrary content.

Re: Cloudflare is experiencing elevated 5xx responses

#26

Discord is having issues right now, unsure if it's related. - Investigating - We are working to correct an issue that is causing some servers to be degraded and unavailable. - Update - We are continuing to investigate this issue.

+1 can't access any Discord servers

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Re: Cloudflare is experiencing elevated 5xx responses

#27

Apropos nothing, I found out today that bash.org died. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37295238 was the last I was able to find about it, and it's the top google search result. I've been thinking of the best way to make a website that won't die when I die. It seems like a hard problem. I was originally going to just trust that Github Pages will be around forever, but I'm not so sure anymore. Running your own ser…

posthaven seems like a good shot: https://posthaven.com See faq>archive mode

Of course it’s nothing more than an organization of people promising you that they will keep the lights on for you insofar as it is feasible, but i’m not sure you can get better than that in practice

Re: Cloudflare is experiencing elevated 5xx responses

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if your page lasted 100 years, your cert wouldn’t. Who knows what DNS, or the equivalent to IP looks like in the 22nd century.

Cloud providers have automated cert renewal.

Hmm. This is interesting. Skimming over https://docs.aws.amazon.com/acm/latest/userguide/managed-ren... it sounds like it might be a matter of using DNS validation, whatever that is.

So that just leaves the question of registrar. As much as I like gandi, it seems like a better idea to migrate the domain itself to Amazon too. https://docs.aws.amazon.com/Route53/latest/DeveloperGuide/re...

Theoretically, this would be a self-contained system — the only point of failure is AWS itself. As long as you load your account with a few thousand bucks, perhaps it will last “forever”.

I also like pg’s philosophy of "just pretend https doesn’t exist", but if it’s guaranteed that the automation won’t fail, it seems gratuitously fussy to insist on plain http.

Thanks!

Re: Cloudflare is experiencing elevated 5xx responses

#29

Apropos nothing, I found out today that bash.org died. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37295238 was the last I was able to find about it, and it's the top google search result. I've been thinking of the best way to make a website that won't die when I die. It seems like a hard problem. I was originally going to just trust that Github Pages will be around forever, but I'm not so sure anymore. Running your own ser…

> I've been thinking of the best way to make a website that won't die when I die It's said that most people look at a painting in a gallery for fewer than 30 seconds. I'd be willing to guess that people are going to look at an old HTML document even less than that (not to mention web scrapers which will be the most likely to uncover an old page) There is no guarantee that the web services, companies, technologies, or…

> It's said that most people look at a painting in a gallery for fewer than 30 seconds.

So I guess the lesson is, if you want something to stick around, go for good old fashioned paper. It doesn’t need electricity, it doesn’t need servers, software, maintainers, infrastructure or any of that. And if taken care of, it might last a thousand years give or take.

Re: Cloudflare is experiencing elevated 5xx responses

#30

Apropos nothing, I found out today that bash.org died. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37295238 was the last I was able to find about it, and it's the top google search result. I've been thinking of the best way to make a website that won't die when I die. It seems like a hard problem. I was originally going to just trust that Github Pages will be around forever, but I'm not so sure anymore. Running your own ser…

Make it profitable, or at least sustaible.
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