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Re: Ledger's NPM account has been hacked

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Re: Ledger's NPM account has been hacked

#22
post #7

NPM forces 2fa, so I’m curious what the scenario was here. Was a committers phone compromised?

The Github action leaked the creds, seemingly via a log. Looks like that action has been in use for ~4 months.

Automated publishing without a human involved kind of kills the whole point of 2FA anyway.

It is kind of funny that the crypto world of multi sigs relies on blind trust of unverified UI components.

Re: Ledger's NPM account has been hacked

#23
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Ledger has been hacked so many times now i've lost count. I remember buying one in 2019, and shortly thereafter all customer data was dumped on the internet endangering everyone who bought one. Then after deep diving the tech i threw it in the trash, it seemed like security theatre product. There's also been so many phishing attempts, fake ledgers sold, bricked ones losing funds, it's total shitshow that ecosystem if…

>I just use isolated cheap laptops and encrypted usb's now.

I figure this isn't practical for most end users. Is there an alternative hardware wallet that you think is okay for most people? How do you feel about Trezor?

Re: Ledger's NPM account has been hacked

#25
post #3

Ledger has been hacked so many times now i've lost count. I remember buying one in 2019, and shortly thereafter all customer data was dumped on the internet endangering everyone who bought one. Then after deep diving the tech i threw it in the trash, it seemed like security theatre product. There's also been so many phishing attempts, fake ledgers sold, bricked ones losing funds, it's total shitshow that ecosystem if…

The only reason things like Ledger exist is because regular smart cards (e.g. Yubikey) don't yet support the signature schemes used on blockchains.

Regular smart cards also don't have screens, so it would mean totally blind signing. That's the problem which hardware wallets are solving, but sometimes the screen is just too small to show all the details of complex transactions.

Re: Ledger's NPM account has been hacked

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post #22
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Github action leaked the creds, seemingly via a log. Looks like that action has been in use for ~4 months.

Automated publishing without a human involved kind of kills the whole point of 2FA anyway. It is kind of funny that the crypto world of multi sigs relies on blind trust of unverified UI components.

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Re: Ledger's NPM account has been hacked

#27
post #7

NPM forces 2fa, so I’m curious what the scenario was here. Was a committers phone compromised?

The Github action leaked the creds, seemingly via a log. Looks like that action has been in use for ~4 months.

This is exactly why GitHub support OpenID Connect, https://docs.github.com/en/actions/deployment/security-harde..., so that long-lived secrets don't need to be present as part of the build.

I'm not sure if NPM supports OIDC, which would be ironic given that both GitHub and NPM are owned by Microsoft.

Re: Ledger's NPM account has been hacked

#28
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Github action leaked the creds, seemingly via a log. Looks like that action has been in use for ~4 months.

This is exactly why GitHub support OpenID Connect, https://docs.github.com/en/actions/deployment/security-harde... , so that long-lived secrets don't need to be present as part of the build. I'm not sure if NPM supports OIDC, which would be ironic given that both GitHub and NPM are owned by Microsoft.

Why would that be ironic?

Re: Ledger's NPM account has been hacked

#29
post #3

Ledger has been hacked so many times now i've lost count. I remember buying one in 2019, and shortly thereafter all customer data was dumped on the internet endangering everyone who bought one. Then after deep diving the tech i threw it in the trash, it seemed like security theatre product. There's also been so many phishing attempts, fake ledgers sold, bricked ones losing funds, it's total shitshow that ecosystem if…

>I just use isolated cheap laptops and encrypted usb's now. I figure this isn't practical for most end users. Is there an alternative hardware wallet that you think is okay for most people? How do you feel about Trezor?

Coldcard! https://coldcard.com/

Re: Ledger's NPM account has been hacked

#30
post #3

Ledger has been hacked so many times now i've lost count. I remember buying one in 2019, and shortly thereafter all customer data was dumped on the internet endangering everyone who bought one. Then after deep diving the tech i threw it in the trash, it seemed like security theatre product. There's also been so many phishing attempts, fake ledgers sold, bricked ones losing funds, it's total shitshow that ecosystem if…

>I just use isolated cheap laptops and encrypted usb's now. I figure this isn't practical for most end users. Is there an alternative hardware wallet that you think is okay for most people? How do you feel about Trezor?

I don't know which it more practical trusting an exchange, paying a hardware wallet or maybe encrypted file in s3
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