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'Like we were lesser humans': Gaza boys, men recall Israeli arrest, torture

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Re: 'Like we were lesser humans': Gaza boys, men recall Israeli arrest, torture

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Post by ngcazz »

jraby3 wrote: post #7

Just a reminder that Aljazeera is the state sponsored news of Qatar, a county that hosts Hamas leaders and is close allies with Iran. It’s not a valid news source.

Respectfully, I think this is poisoning the well. For one, do you think CNN and MSNBC being private organizations clears them from charges of state manipulation, let alone bias? Al Jazeera doesn't purport to hide its biases in this war, and has had way more insightful and urgent reporting on it than any of the western outlets have had -- not least because it's been reporting from the occupied territories*, and hasn't shied away from airing images displaying the extent of the carnage and destruction.

(* edit: even when their families are killed by Israeli bombs)

Re: 'Like we were lesser humans': Gaza boys, men recall Israeli arrest, torture

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Post by ngcazz »

throwing_away wrote: post #10
jraby3 wrote: post #7

Just a reminder that Aljazeera is the state sponsored news of Qatar, a county that hosts Hamas leaders and is close allies with Iran. It’s not a valid news source.

That would explain the factual inaccuracies that I've noticed in their reporting since the events of October. I assumed it was because of a religious ideology, but a state sponsor makes sense too.

Can you provide examples where they've been debunked?

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Post by hydrok9 »

skyyler wrote: post #19
srackey wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Can you give more information about what you mean? Are you calling UN humanitarian aid some kind of "bankroll"? That feels disingenuous at best...

how much of the aid is administered by Hamas?

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Post by myth_drannon »

noworriesnate wrote: post #13

> “When they spoke to us in Hebrew and we wouldn’t understand, they’d beat us up,” he continues. > “They hit me in the back where my kidneys are and my legs. They took my family, and I don’t know where they are,” he says, his voice breaking. > Before they were forced inside the warehouse, Israeli female soldiers came and spat on the men, Mohammed recalls. > In the warehouse, it was common for groups of five soldiers…

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Re: 'Like we were lesser humans': Gaza boys, men recall Israeli arrest, torture

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Post by krembo »

noworriesnate wrote: post #13

> “When they spoke to us in Hebrew and we wouldn’t understand, they’d beat us up,” he continues. > “They hit me in the back where my kidneys are and my legs. They took my family, and I don’t know where they are,” he says, his voice breaking. > Before they were forced inside the warehouse, Israeli female soldiers came and spat on the men, Mohammed recalls. > In the warehouse, it was common for groups of five soldiers…

Since the source is AlJazeera can you at least take these testimonies with a grain of doubt?

Re: 'Like we were lesser humans': Gaza boys, men recall Israeli arrest, torture

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Post by foogazi »

myth_drannon wrote: post #17

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Killing the messenger ?

Both statements could be true, right ?

I don't look at this as cancelling outrage on both sides, nor justification for violence. If this happened to you in your country you'd raise the alarm, if 10/7 happened in your country you'd send the Army

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Post by smoothjazz »

jraby3 wrote: post #7

Just a reminder that Aljazeera is the state sponsored news of Qatar, a county that hosts Hamas leaders and is close allies with Iran. It’s not a valid news source.

I hadn't watched Al Jazeera before this conflict but now I think they're heroes. You see "reporters" on CNN wearing bullet proof vests by a pool in Tel Aviv while Al Jazeera journalists are reporting on air while they find out their entire family has been killed by Israel. It's incredible stuff and I've never seen anything like it. I've lost all respect for US and western media journalism.

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Post by srackey »

skyyler wrote: post #19
srackey wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Can you give more information about what you mean? Are you calling UN humanitarian aid some kind of "bankroll"? That feels disingenuous at best...

I’m saying that the “humanitarian aid” cannot be separated from support for Hamas (or rather, that Hamas will ensure that anything the UN does in Gaza will be to its benefit).

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Post by itsoktocry »

skyyler wrote: post #11

The things I've read about happening in Gaza are horrific. I'm ashamed that my taxes are funding this. It doesn't feel like there's much that can be done to change that. AIPAC has a very serious influence on our government and I worry that its impact is just leading to more deaths and more suffering.

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