What is so special about iMessage ? A better MMS ?
brand identity crossed with conspicuous consumption and intentional degregdation of interoperability.
Sen. Warren calls out Apple for shutting down Beeper's iMessage on Android app
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#22What is so special about iMessage ? A better MMS ?
One benefit is that you can remove yourself from a group conversation if everyone is on iMessage. If there is one person on SMS, there’s no way out (you can mute notifications, but if there are unread messages it will show up in the red number for the iMessage app.
I don’t know if this is a result of Apple purposely making it impossible to excuse yourself from a mixed conversation. It would certainly be possible for them to make the unread count ignore muted conversations.
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The cost of switching to/from iOS just isn't worth it for "just" iMessage. I don't think you're making a valid argument here.
lock-in is real. green bubble vs blue bubble will has social and dating implications
> green bubble vs blue bubble will has social and dating implications
IMO that's a "them" problem. By "them", I mean "people who let something as trivial as this have social and dating implications".
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Apparently they have a broader offering that aggregates messaging across various different platforms (though not iMessage anymore). I have also wondered if the value prop is sufficient if iMessage is not in the mix, but have concluded that their team is probably smarter/more well informed than me, and they're dedicating years of their lives to this!
I've been using Beeper for a while now and have zero interest in iMessage. It aggregates Discord, Signal, SMS, LinkedIn, Slack, Twitter, WhatsApp message into one place. It's fantastic! (Though it's recently developed a weird bug where my Signal messages out aren't delivered to the remote recipient... Such is the nature of adversarial interoperability.)
Isn’t signal’s client code open source?
Re: Sen. Warren calls out Apple for shutting down Beeper's iMessage on Android app
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The cost of switching to/from iOS just isn't worth it for "just" iMessage. I don't think you're making a valid argument here.
I know multiple people who cited iMessage compatibility as their top reason for switching and even have considered it myself -- the chilling effect that "green text" has on including non-iMessage users in group messages is real and has small but measurable impact on some of my relationships. It is particularly pernicious among teens[1], who drive a lot of this market (and, of course, become adults and bring their hab…
I know multiple people that have said the same.
It had nothing to do with “green text”. They were annoyed that when people shared photos with the group they came through at shit quality.
Outside of what I’m sure are some articles very in tune to teenage culture (BRB, POS), I’ve literally never heard of this as a status symbol—purely as a functional issue.
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lock-in is real. green bubble vs blue bubble will has social and dating implications
> green bubble vs blue bubble will has social and dating implications IMO that's a "them" problem. By "them", I mean "people who let something as trivial as this have social and dating implications".
If someone won't date you due to "green bubbles" ... I think you may have dodged a bullet.
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> green bubble vs blue bubble will has social and dating implications IMO that's a "them" problem. By "them", I mean "people who let something as trivial as this have social and dating implications".
If someone won't date you due to "green bubbles" ... I think you may have dodged a bullet.
true but it still causes frictions with friends, family.