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"If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"

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Re: "If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"

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I don't know what is actually required. I'm asking.

It is a little different from publisher to publisher. Basically a main-stream OS, plus hardware attestation of any displays, plus an official browser version with the right codecs will get you there with no issues. If you are missing any of those pieces, you get downgraded on quality for sure.

No you don't really, google around and you'll see that whatever you use, unless it's a google stick (not even sure either), you won't get HD. Seems the DRM for displays has been cracked a while back and everyone has just downgraded playback silently ever since.

With zero notifications, refunds or anything of course.

Re: "If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know what is actually required. I'm asking.

It is a little different from publisher to publisher. Basically a main-stream OS, plus hardware attestation of any displays, plus an official browser version with the right codecs will get you there with no issues. If you are missing any of those pieces, you get downgraded on quality for sure.

A browser won't even work at all, as you need dedicated software (i.e. native app, TPM/TEE support) in order to play 4K media at full resolution, at least in Netflix's case.

Re: "If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"

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It is just not even just deleting shows, they do whatever they like. For example, if you buy a "HD" show on youtube, you are actually getting 480p, because something something DRM will prevents you from playing that HD version you bought on anything but a locked up air gapped computer in Youtube's VP's own office. This is a scandal that has been going on for years -- they still sell you HD versions of the movies and…

Please, quit whinning.

Microsoft's been working on it for ages and they are almost there.

That's exactly the point of PMP in Windows (Protected media path) and (almost) mandatory TPM in Windows 11.

Not long now... and then you'll rent. May be even pay for the accrued mouse mileage, who knows.

Re: "If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"

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post #15

If copyright was applied to books it would be illegal to read books you didn't pay for. Storing such books would be a crime, sharing such books would be a federal crime and organizing a book reading club would make you famous in the criminal world.

Copyright is applied to books and it is illegal to organize a book club where you hand out copies you made of your books.

Handing out the copy of a book you paid for is of course perfectly legal as is giving away or selling your original Blu-Ray discs. Even though entertainment execs would love to outlaw that as well.

Re: "If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"

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Words matter. So let’s be clear on both sides. It isn’t piracy. It isn’t stealing. It’s copyright infringement.

Copyright infringement is about publishing, not consuming. If I copy a friend's legally-purchased .epub that's like borrowing their legally-purchased printed book. Same as if I take a book from a Little Library in my neighborhood, or borrow a paper book from the city library. Why is the transfer of digital content more restricted? A print publisher can't prevent a library from lending their book as many times as they…

Quoting Wikipedia: "Copyright infringement (at times referred to as piracy) is the use of works protected by copyright without permission for a usage where such permission is required, thereby infringing certain exclusive rights granted to the copyright holder, such as the right to reproduce, distribute, display or perform the protected work, or to make derivative works." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement

Copying a friend's legally-purchased epub is copyright infringement the same way that making a photocopy of a physical book is copyright infringement.

It is not the same taking a book from a library due to the "first-sale doctrine", which Wikipedia describes as "an American legal concept that limits the rights of an intellectual property owner to control resale of products embodying its intellectual property. The doctrine enables the distribution chain of copyrighted products, library lending, giving, video rentals and secondary markets for copyrighted works (for example, enabling individuals to sell their legally purchased books or CDs to others)." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine

> so why do we give digital publishers that ability

Because people agreed to special licensing terms that restricted what they could do, in favor of convenience.

Re: "If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"

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post #15

If copyright was applied to books it would be illegal to read books you didn't pay for. Storing such books would be a crime, sharing such books would be a federal crime and organizing a book reading club would make you famous in the criminal world.

Copyright is applied to books. The books you have on your Kindle are subject to exactly the same issues. https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106989...

For physical books, you have first-sale doctrine rights. For digital books, your license agreement means you usually agree those rights don't apply.

That's why storing and sharing physical books is not a crime - you have actually purchased them.

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