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Plan for Windows 10 End of Support

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Re: Plan for Windows 10 End of Support

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I would have updated if it wasn't for Windows 11 requiring a specific hardware. I'll stick to Windows 10, when it dies, I'll probably force myself to switch to Fedora or something.

Just run it anyway? Even 23H2 works on an old Intel i5-6500 I put it on for shits and giggs. Had to download an “enablement package” to get it to upgrade in-place from 22H2 but there’s a big community of people doing this and it was as difficult as “click this link which downloads the exe direct from Microsoft.”

Re: Plan for Windows 10 End of Support

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Yes and No. A lot of folks will go with newer hardware due to lacking TPM, etc. support, but those people were likely to upgrade at 1-3 year intervals anyway. A majority of users will just keep running Windows 10, with or without sec updates until they can no longer buy a system with 10. There are still Windows 7 and Vista installs out there, running every day, and I don't mean outliers. I know a clinic that runs Win…

In all fairness, Windows 3.11 is so ancient that it is probably immune to (or overlooked by) most modern threats.

You're also pretty limited in what you can do and who you can communicate with on an older OS.

For example, Windows XP doesn't support modern and commonly implemented TLS.

Re: Plan for Windows 10 End of Support

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How's things like sleep, hibernate, system wide touchpad gestures, HW video decode and fractional scaling working in the land of linux these days? I know if you can live without those then Linux is daily drivable for a long time, but I need all of them to work flawlessly, and every time I try Linux on my bare metal laptop a lot of those features are still missing, janky or require research and tinkering. I really wan…

Don't forget HDR on monitors and gesture support on trackpads.

Out of your combined lists, HDR is the only one that would cause issues. Although it really depends on the distro.

Re: Plan for Windows 10 End of Support

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Don't forget HDR on monitors and gesture support on trackpads.

Out of your combined lists, HDR is the only one that would cause issues. Although it really depends on the distro.

Yup, and I fully expect that to be solved by end of 2024. I have already fired up Halo Infinite on NixOS with a patched kernel and have seen HDR working via gamescope. Just a matter of ironing out kinks, KDE is already in progress, I expect Cosmic to start supporting soon, too.

Re: Plan for Windows 10 End of Support

#27

I would have updated if it wasn't for Windows 11 requiring a specific hardware. I'll stick to Windows 10, when it dies, I'll probably force myself to switch to Fedora or something.

And we all know this a limit made on purpose (by a marketing team?). They probably could use this additional hardware everytime it's available on new PCs and allow a kind of legacy mode for Windows 11 on old PCs. But hey, some marketing genius came up with the idea to sell Windows 10 ESU (Extended Security Updates) membership to end consumers this time.

Windows 11's hardware requirements were made to coincide with CPU's that had hardware mitigation for Meltdown and Spectre attacks, as part of their attempt to push the general baseline of security for average users

Re: Plan for Windows 10 End of Support

#28

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Don't forget HDR on monitors and gesture support on trackpads.

Out of your combined lists, HDR is the only one that would cause issues. Although it really depends on the distro.

Are you saying all the sleep/hibernate, touch-pad, wifi, etc. issues that have plagued linux on laptops for decades at this point have now been resolved?

Re: Plan for Windows 10 End of Support

#29

Do I get this right? Windows 10 end of support will push many, many people to modern hardware? Seems like HW companies will have very good year 2025/2026 brb purchasing stocks

Yes and No. A lot of folks will go with newer hardware due to lacking TPM, etc. support, but those people were likely to upgrade at 1-3 year intervals anyway. A majority of users will just keep running Windows 10, with or without sec updates until they can no longer buy a system with 10. There are still Windows 7 and Vista installs out there, running every day, and I don't mean outliers. I know a clinic that runs Win…

If neither the Windows 8 machine nor the Windows 3.11 machine are networked with any path to the internet, they can limp along for quite some time without replacement. The bigger worry is this ancient hardware blowing a cap and leaving you unable to complete some vital function for the week.

Re: Plan for Windows 10 End of Support

#30

So I have about 2 years to prepare to run some flavour of Gaming Linux on my desktop, cool. Thankfully, Valve's continued and dedicated support for the Steam Deck has made this a very easy alternative to consider.

Been a Windows Main my whole life. Bought the steam deck a year ago and it was awesome. Bought a new pc couple of weeks ago and installed linux mint. Few minor issues, resolved in net 2hours. Since then it has been a breeze. Developing, gaming, even running Windows apps is no problem anymore.
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