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TACF is no longer supporting development of D58 American chestnut trees

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Re: TACF is no longer supporting development of D58 American chestnut trees

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That is disappointing, but I'm also a little curious - why did this go all the way to field trials if the gene insertion was completely screwed up, to the point of being on the wrong chromosome?

    In November 2023, through molecular analyses performed by partners at the University of New England and University of Maine, TACF learned that the OxO gene of all Darling 58 trees was on a different chromosome than expected (chromosome 4 instead of chromosome 7). Upon further and additional independent investigation, scientists confirmed that the trees they had been researching were in fact descendants of a different event in the Darling line in which the OxO gene had been inserted into a coding region, causing a deletion in a known gene. That research has also indicated that the homozygous state (when an individual plant inherits the OxO gene from both parents, which occurs in 25% of offspring) is lethal, and that a majority of homozygous offspring die in the embryonic stage.

    TACF researchers suspect that the performance issues of Darling trees stem primarily from the placement of the OxO gene as well as the constitutive expression of the OxO gene which is always “switched on” via the 35S promoter. Somewhat like having a constant fever, that constitutive promotion appears to result in high metabolic costs for the trees. All events in the Darling line use this promoter. Therefore, TACF is no longer pursuing research efforts with any event in the Darling line.
If you are breeding to insert a single, specific, gene, into a single, specific place, it would seem like you'd of course do some sequencing to verify that it went in at the expected place and didn't do anything else off-target (like cause deletions in an unrelated gene), before you invested a year in field trials.

Is sequencing of tree genomes still so expensive that it makes sense to fail in the field first and only then go looking for problems?

Re: TACF is no longer supporting development of D58 American chestnut trees

#22

The headline sounds like the final end of the experiments but to me it sounds more like a setback, e.g. eventually they hope to get a transgenic blight-resistant tree they can distribute.

It's a setback, but it's a pretty big one, since the whole lineage is now considered nonviable due to OxO replacing another important gene. So you have to go back and implement the gene somewhere else, or do what they talked about here, implement some kind of switch.

Re: TACF is no longer supporting development of D58 American chestnut trees

#23

American chestnut was the redwood of the east. Its damn shame it is not thriving

Tried to respond to this before maybe the site will let me now. There's a redwood that was thought to be extinct that thrives in east coast conditions of the US. The dawn redwood is a fast grower, and while being the smallest of the redwood species is still quite a large tree. It was discovered in a valley in China I guess back in the 40's, previously only known to the fossil record. We have one here planted in the 1…

Wow fascinating. Apparently it is a deciduous tree.

Re: TACF is no longer supporting development of D58 American chestnut trees

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post #21

That is disappointing, but I'm also a little curious - why did this go all the way to field trials if the gene insertion was completely screwed up, to the point of being on the wrong chromosome ? In November 2023, through molecular analyses performed by partners at the University of New England and University of Maine, TACF learned that the OxO gene of all Darling 58 trees was on a different chromosome than expected…

Well for comparison the sunflower has around 30% more base pairs in it's genome than the human genome, kentucky bluegrass has more than double, spruces have around 7x as many, pines have over 10x, but oak has less than a third.

So it's kind of all over the place. Even relatively similar plant species within the same family can have massively different genome sizes.

Chinese chestnuts have a comparatively small genome but they were only sequenced in the last 4 years and to my knowledge they are the only chestnut to have been sequenced.

Re: TACF is no longer supporting development of D58 American chestnut trees

#25

Click baity - they are ceasing distribution of blight resistant seeds that died more frequently than expected. It’s not viable in wild so no go. This headline would have you thinking they’re holding back progress or something. But it’s clear they are the opposite, cutting their losses and investing elsewhere.

ACF/ESF is running the project. They are providing an update. No clickbait, and a very well written update at that.

Re: TACF is no longer supporting development of D58 American chestnut trees

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought some of those seeds and I just thought I had a black thumb. I planted my surviving seedlings this fall, a month before frost, and I hope they will survive winter..

I live in blight region (NJ). We have American seedlings growing here for a few years now, but I don't have faith that inside the range they'll reach maturity. Our mature American Chestnut tree is well established enough that it dies back some every few decades and recovers. This year I got 50 or so chestnuts out of it. I ate a few, they are great and never seem to get the weevil that the Chinese trees we have do (ba…

Contact ACF. They have an open call for genetics from trees like yours.

Re: TACF is no longer supporting development of D58 American chestnut trees

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post #21

That is disappointing, but I'm also a little curious - why did this go all the way to field trials if the gene insertion was completely screwed up, to the point of being on the wrong chromosome ? In November 2023, through molecular analyses performed by partners at the University of New England and University of Maine, TACF learned that the OxO gene of all Darling 58 trees was on a different chromosome than expected…

You don't need to sequence the entire genome to know where copies of the gene of interest are located.

I'll edit that the research still looks worthwhile for the information they discovered. Using a highly expressing constitutive promoter showed that OxO is a good gene candidate for resistance, and now they can tailor it more with the wound-inducible promoter.

Re: TACF is no longer supporting development of D58 American chestnut trees

#28
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought some of those seeds and I just thought I had a black thumb. I planted my surviving seedlings this fall, a month before frost, and I hope they will survive winter..

I live in blight region (NJ). We have American seedlings growing here for a few years now, but I don't have faith that inside the range they'll reach maturity. Our mature American Chestnut tree is well established enough that it dies back some every few decades and recovers. This year I got 50 or so chestnuts out of it. I ate a few, they are great and never seem to get the weevil that the Chinese trees we have do (ba…

I live in MN and am a tree enthusiast with some acreage to plant.

Re: TACF is no longer supporting development of D58 American chestnut trees

#29
"American Chestnut Foundation is No Longer Supporting Development of D58 Transgenic Chestnut Tree Line" would be a better title.

This is a disappointing result as the D58 line appears to have problems described in the article. However, it seems that multiple parallel efforts are ongoing with other transgenic attempts as well as more traditional back-cross methods. The road to American Chestnut restoration appears to have encountered a significant setback but promising research is still ongoing.

Relatedly, I saw many American Chestnut trees on the Shawangunk Ridge over the summer. Several were blooming. Not sure whether they bore fruit (chestnuts). This is not uncommon. Of course, they eventually become blighted and die, but they can still attain a respectable size (20-30 feet?)

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