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Re: Tell HN: YC company Anima Health is spamming email addresses posted to HN

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Post by dirtybirdnj »

CoastalCoder wrote: post #19
dirtybirdnj wrote: post #5

They've been at this for a while, I got one in Sept 2022 "Saw your profile on HN and we think your skills look like a good fit for our team" If it had been "we saw you are engaged on hacker news" instead of "we saw your profile" I might have actually responded. I don't have a profile on this site. I have a barely reputable profile, and I'm lucky when my engagement is received positively. It's like when I get spam ima…

> "Saw your profile on HN and we think your skills look like a good fit for our team" I have a theory: Matching candidates to jobs requires time and effort on both sides: both need carefully consider if it's a relationship worth pursuing. Messages like the one above are intended to trick people into thinking that the employer has already done some filtering, and by implication, the candidate is more likely to land a…

You hit the nail on the head. If you are in a job hunting drought outreach like this is like a mirage. It looks so good. It can be really emotionally draining as you realize that it's not targeted outreach but automated scraping.

It's important to not take it personally, but when I was doing really, really badly things like this were very upsetting to me. I'm doing a lot better, I can see why some people get riled up about it. I'm thankful I'm in a place where I don't WANT to rage about it anymore... but clearly there's still something because I'm on here writing huge paragraphs.

YMMV. Job hunting sucks, I don't think there's an easy answer or solution on either side of this fence.

Re: Tell HN: YC company Anima Health is spamming email addresses posted to HN

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Post by whamlastxmas »

mkl95 wrote: post #13
101008 wrote: post #4

Why startups needs to spam for candidates? Is it too hard to find good engineers, especially now that your pool is almost worldwide (if you accept remote)? Consider the amount of layoffs lately, I'd say startups should have it easy. The explanation is probably that I don't understand the market at all...

Most engineers seek a balance between risk and reward in their career. Most YC companies are a high risk for a relatively small reward.

Equity in startups for employees should be valued near zero bc almost every time it’s diluted to nothing

Re: Tell HN: YC company Anima Health is spamming email addresses posted to HN

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Post by barryrandall »

e2le wrote: post #6

"Don't ask for permission, ask for forgiveness later"

"..., but if strangers are stopping to record what you're about to do, just pause for a moment and verify the reasoning you used to disregard the warnings you were given."

Re: Tell HN: YC company Anima Health is spamming email addresses posted to HN

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Post by catharsisatlast »

radq wrote: post #7
wantlotsofcurry wrote: post #3

I received the same email after the first time I posted to the monthly “Who wants to be hired?” thread. Gross, really.

I'm confused - you posted in the "who wants to be hired" thread, and then got an email from this company asking if you'd be interested?

You're right. You are confused. He or she didn't get an email like that. It was an email that said, "Saw your profile on HN and we think your skills look like a good fit for our team." No one saw the profile and thought that. Re "wondered if you'd be interested in our YC company," no one wondered that.

This was a deceptive email meant only to advertise the fact that Anima 1) exists, and 2) is accepting applications. It should have been posted in the "Who is hiring?" thread.

Re: Tell HN: YC company Anima Health is spamming email addresses posted to HN

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Post by [deleted] »

Kiro wrote: post #12
dirtybirdnj wrote: post #5

They've been at this for a while, I got one in Sept 2022 "Saw your profile on HN and we think your skills look like a good fit for our team" If it had been "we saw you are engaged on hacker news" instead of "we saw your profile" I might have actually responded. I don't have a profile on this site. I have a barely reputable profile, and I'm lucky when my engagement is received positively. It's like when I get spam ima…

You posted in "Who wants to be hired?" in Sept 2022.

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Re: Tell HN: YC company Anima Health is spamming email addresses posted to HN

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Post by catharsisatlast »

Kiro wrote: post #15

Everyone complaining about this here has posted their email in a thread that is literally called "Who wants to be hired?" and now they're upset that a company is reaching out? What am I missing?

Here's what you're missing:

You seem to be under the mistaken belief that "Who wants to be hired?" means "Who wants us to indiscriminately email you a link to our application?" It doesn't. It definitely doesn't mean, "Who wants us to email you a link and couch in a deceptive message that claims that we looked at your profile and 'we think your skills look like a good fit' and 'I think you'd find our job description interesting'?"

Re: Tell HN: YC company Anima Health is spamming email addresses posted to HN

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Post by [deleted] »

dirtybirdnj wrote: post #14
101008 wrote: post #4

Why startups needs to spam for candidates? Is it too hard to find good engineers, especially now that your pool is almost worldwide (if you accept remote)? Consider the amount of layoffs lately, I'd say startups should have it easy. The explanation is probably that I don't understand the market at all...

> Why startups needs to spam for candidates? Because if you could save money on hiring, you would. When you are in survival mode (not saying anything about the company referenced, just startups in general) you tend to get fast and loose with the truth. There's always a reason to justify what you did last week because "if we didn't do $AWFUL_THING everybody would have been fired." I think if you live in this headspace…

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Re: Tell HN: YC company Anima Health is spamming email addresses posted to HN

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Post by [deleted] »

dirtybirdnj wrote: post #21
CoastalCoder wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Saw your profile on HN and we think your skills look like a good fit for our team" I have a theory: Matching candidates to jobs requires time and effort on both sides: both need carefully consider if it's a relationship worth pursuing. Messages like the one above are intended to trick people into thinking that the employer has already done some filtering, and by implication, the candidate is more likely to land a…

You hit the nail on the head. If you are in a job hunting drought outreach like this is like a mirage. It looks so good. It can be really emotionally draining as you realize that it's not targeted outreach but automated scraping. It's important to not take it personally, but when I was doing really, really badly things like this were very upsetting to me. I'm doing a lot better, I can see why some people get riled up…

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