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OpenAI delays launch of custom GPT store until early 2024

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Re: OpenAI delays launch of custom GPT store until early 2024

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the customized GPTs are honestly a let down you can't do anything fun with them, and that's not because it isn't possible but because openai is afraid to step outside of the safety zone. the response style really doesn't change much, default behavior leaks into everything so easily what were they expecting?

Honestly, I am excited for people to re-implement the API for this using open models because of this. Maybe let the API stabilize a little, and i'm sure some implementations will pop-up.

Re: OpenAI delays launch of custom GPT store until early 2024

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The release of plugins was underwhelming for a lot of users, I wonder if they're worried about the same thing happening again. I had fun making a plugin when they were first announced but the developer experience was clunky and frustrating, and there was a lot of confusion around how the plugin store actually worked. I haven't made the time to convert my plugin into a GPT but I'm planning to, hopefully it'll be a bit…

I suspect they're a bit like Google... wonderful tech but terrible product company. Everything outside of the quality of their models is suspect: - GPTs are super quirky w/ weird limitations... try processing an image file larger than an emoji from base 64 text and watch it render the base64 string in a code window and give up after about 1k tokens. The vast majority of the time it doesn't even try and hallucinates p…

It really seems like it's there to take any low hanging fruit away from the startup market and continue riding the hype train as long as possible while paradoxically also bringing to light just how useless GPTs are for most serious automation tasks.

Re: OpenAI delays launch of custom GPT store until early 2024

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The release of plugins was underwhelming for a lot of users, I wonder if they're worried about the same thing happening again. I had fun making a plugin when they were first announced but the developer experience was clunky and frustrating, and there was a lot of confusion around how the plugin store actually worked. I haven't made the time to convert my plugin into a GPT but I'm planning to, hopefully it'll be a bit…

Might be underwhelming because the rollout of allowing authors was extremely limited? That’s how I felt. I pay for ChatGPT and never got off the waitlist when first announced. Killed all hype for me.

Yes and having to manually toggle the plugins and hope that your requests end up in the right one wasn’t great either. Especially with the 1 action per response limit. The new GPTs look and feel much more, for lack of a better word, natural. I‘ve had an interaction in the main GPT where it first looked up something on the internet and then followed up with generating an image and writing a suitable text. I found it pretty magical.

Re: OpenAI delays launch of custom GPT store until early 2024

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Dear GPT Builder, > It’s been less than a month since we announced GPTs and we are blown away by the useful and fun GPTs that you and the builder community have created. > We are continuing to make improvements to GPTs based on your feedback. To improve Actions we updated the configuration interface, enabled one click testing, added debug messages in preview, and now allow multiple domains. There have also been que…

appreciated, but do you mind forwarding the email itself? it's not that I don't trust you, just helpful to have. I won't use your email for anything. edit: thanks to all who sent.

I don't mean to be harsh, but is this journalism now?

When you write an article and say something has been corroborated by your "sources", does that mean "forwarded to you by anonymous HN posters"?

You don't have an IRL relationship with a source who has created a GPT? You can't throw a stone in the valley without hitting somebody who has.

Re: OpenAI delays launch of custom GPT store until early 2024

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Is anyone actively using custom GPTs? I've really tried to find a compelling use case but every thing I can think of is much better off as a simple system prompt you just copy and prepend (since it's easier to modify it, and it becomes more transparent).

You can upload files. I've made one to act as a coding assistant to a little-known language that way. It seems to work OK. It makes syntax errors, but I'm not sure if that's a limitation of the Custom GPTs paradigm, or if the docs I gave it aren't any good. I know there are other services that do this kind of thing, but why bother finding one?

Re: OpenAI delays launch of custom GPT store until early 2024

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Still dont understand why anyone would "pay" for this. The default model will probably be better in pretty much all cases. I guess if someone randomly has some sort of esoteric knowledge? Seems very limited.

Is a custom GPT just a boatload of prompts injected by default?

Re: OpenAI delays launch of custom GPT store until early 2024

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post #11

Is anyone actively using custom GPTs? I've really tried to find a compelling use case but every thing I can think of is much better off as a simple system prompt you just copy and prepend (since it's easier to modify it, and it becomes more transparent).

I have so far found them “useful” mostly for having a collection of system prompts, and for sharing silly prompts with friends. It’s basically a way to attach a prompt to a URL.

For instance I have a “Beastie Bot” that plays a game where it categorizes things as “Beasts” or “Beasties.”

Re: OpenAI delays launch of custom GPT store until early 2024

#30

Still dont understand why anyone would "pay" for this. The default model will probably be better in pretty much all cases. I guess if someone randomly has some sort of esoteric knowledge? Seems very limited.

Not sure how much you've used custom GPTs. They are currently flawed and buggy but I think they hold promise. They combine 3 things:

1. A custom initial prompt (yeah - you can paste this in every time and keep a personal database of special purpose prompts - but it rather kills the convenience and utility)

2. A JSON description of one or more APIs that can be used (not just for retrieveal of information - but potentially to take actions. This aspect is under-explored IMHO)

3. Uploaded documents which (I presume) are encoded into a vector database. This part is currently the most flaky. I was hoping this was a way to get round context-window limits. It has worked very badly so far and I'm not sure I understand why.

If these things start working effectively in combination then there's potentially a "the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts" going on here. Each of these things is fairly useful on it's own but if you combine them and have them on tap - and someone else has put the hours in to making them useful and well-tuned - then it is potentially transformative.

Yes - GPT on it's own is pretty good at a lot of things, but you spend a long time working around it's flaws and blind-spots.

Custom GPTs don't cure all the warts but they are still potentially a force-multiplier.

EDIT - I'm also currently underwhelmed how well the other "special powers" work together. Image generation can't be fed into Image Understandin. Python is hamstrung in various ways. And GPT has no real understanding of how to prompt Dall-E. In fact it's worse at prompting than I am.

These flaws are potentially fixable. I hope.

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