21–30 of 61 posts
Any chance systems based on it will be sold outside China?
The USA’s recent sanctions against the PRC has made Loongson forbidden if I remember correctly. Hopefully, this will change.
Why do they use 12nm process node as opposed to SMIC 5nm or 7nm? Too expensive?
I would like to see actual benchmarks though.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
So far it appears that Huawei is the only Chinese firm producing chips on 7nm; while western commenters have stated that it is a SMIC process - I don't actually think they know for sure as none of these companies have made it official - in other words the process may be proprietary to Huawei. However 7nm is in volume production at a level so high that can do non-critical projects such as the Mate 60 phone rather than…
>So far it appears that Huawei is the only Chinese firm producing chips on 7nm True a good video about it from Asianometry "China's 7nm Semiconductor Breakthrough" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KrdcTsScKk
Also Huawei has a quite capable AI offerings:
I’d love to get my hands on one of these. They’re MIPS machines that are on-par with the Intel core i3 14100. Loongson is also involved with Deepin Linux, so they’re attempting to build out a Chinese-native technology stack. While I generally don’t care for things under control of the CCP due to surveillance concerns, I do love competition for bringing about new tech innovation. We’re now getting back to the 80s/90s…
It is the golden age if you are a Chinese chip designer or operating systems engineer; getting to reinvent/rebuild the whole computing stack.
If they can keep up with the AMD and Intel CPUs they list, then that's actually pretty impressive and actually useful. There is a lot of people still daily driving 5 - 10 old processors just fine, it's absolutely plenty for a office desktop or even light development work. I would like to see actual benchmarks though.
Except it's a custom ISA (fork of MIPS). It could be fine for Chromebook-like use cases (basically web browser machine), but not really for anything more serious ...
Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's Loongarch, some sort of MIPS + RISC-V.
Wikipedia [1] has some more details, but not too many on the main page itself. Also from the top of that page I learned that "Loongson" means "Dragon Core" which to me as a westerner makes it sound very clearly Chinese (because dragons) but also a lot cooler (because ... dragons!). Nice. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loongson#LoongArch
https://loongson.github.io/LoongArch-Documentation/LoongArch...
Why do they use 12nm process node as opposed to SMIC 5nm or 7nm? Too expensive?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
>So far it appears that Huawei is the only Chinese firm producing chips on 7nm True a good video about it from Asianometry "China's 7nm Semiconductor Breakthrough" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KrdcTsScKk
Some of this is simply because until the latest sanctions, other Chinese chip designers could fab at TSMC at 7nm. Also Huawei has a quite capable AI offerings: https://e.huawei.com/en/products/computing/ascend
I’d love to get my hands on one of these. They’re MIPS machines that are on-par with the Intel core i3 14100. Loongson is also involved with Deepin Linux, so they’re attempting to build out a Chinese-native technology stack. While I generally don’t care for things under control of the CCP due to surveillance concerns, I do love competition for bringing about new tech innovation. We’re now getting back to the 80s/90s…