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Re: Ansel

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Post by nurple »

mrkeen wrote: post #6
Banditoz wrote: post #5

> I have given 4 years of my life to the Darktable project, only to see it destroyed by clueless geeks playing code stashing on their spare time, everyone pushing his own agenda with no sense of design, in a project where nobody is responsible for anything and where we work too fast on everything at the same time. Anyone know what happened to the Darktable project? I've only used it a few times, but it seems nice for…

I just assumed it was what people used. I tried but couldn't get the hang of it. Couldn't flatten or remove things from the history.

That's kind of the nature of non-destructive editing. While I do think the operation stack could be smarter about collapsing edits that are commutative, once I got a workflow order down I haven't really worried about this much.

The documentation actually has a pretty good example workflow that flows through mutations in an order that makes sense for most cases. Though it's not really that simple, and so you'll find yourself trying to relearn each time if it's something you do only on occasion.

Re: Ansel

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Post by okl »

orbital-decay wrote: post #15
Banditoz wrote: post #5

> I have given 4 years of my life to the Darktable project, only to see it destroyed by clueless geeks playing code stashing on their spare time, everyone pushing his own agenda with no sense of design, in a project where nobody is responsible for anything and where we work too fast on everything at the same time. Anyone know what happened to the Darktable project? I've only used it a few times, but it seems nice for…

The author is the "Dr. Rant" (his own words) of Darktable, so a lot of what he says is probably exaggerated. A lot of it isn't, though - Darktable does indeed lack focus and direction lately, leading to unnecessary bloat and unresolved issues. In other words, typical FOSS problems that sometimes lead to a fork.

Author has a blog post here, https://ansel.photos/en/news/darktable-dans-le-mur-au-ralent..., which exhibits some example code, for example, this: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/blob/darktable-4....

That's a far cry from what I'd find acceptable in any project.

Re: Ansel

#23

Post by photoGrant »

nas wrote: post #8

This is the work of a former "darktable" developer (Aurélien Pierre) who decided to fork the codebase and go it alone. He has strong opinions about the correct way to do things. I like some of the cleanup on the UI that he has done. For now, Ansel and darktable are compatible in terms of the underlying database. So you can easily switch back and forth between them. If the fork diverges significantly, it would be more…

The DB is compatible with Darktable v4.0 and below only

Re: Ansel

#24

Post by macintux »

Somewhere very recently I encountered a quote from Ansel Adams, in which he seemed to anticipate that "electronic" photos would be the next big thing, in (IIRC) 1980. Wish I could find that again. Seemed remarkably prescient.

Re: Ansel

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Post by okl »

acherion wrote: post #19

Weird, I scrolled down to see what cameras it supports, and there was a link labelled "Supported Cameras" that goes to https://rawspeed.org/CameraSupport.html but that's a squatted domain now. Is there a list somewhere? It doesn't instill much confidence in me if I can't even see what camera RAW formats are supported.

How about this? https://github.com/darktable-org/rawspeed/blob/develop/data/...

Re: Ansel

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Post by nurple »

acherion wrote: post #19

Weird, I scrolled down to see what cameras it supports, and there was a link labelled "Supported Cameras" that goes to https://rawspeed.org/CameraSupport.html but that's a squatted domain now. Is there a list somewhere? It doesn't instill much confidence in me if I can't even see what camera RAW formats are supported.

Take a look at the darktable docs: https://docs.darktable.org/usermanual/4.0/en/overview/suppor...

The rawspeed lib is at github here: https://github.com/darktable-org/rawspeed

Re: Ansel

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Post by robga »

macintux wrote: post #24

Somewhere very recently I encountered a quote from Ansel Adams, in which he seemed to anticipate that "electronic" photos would be the next big thing, in (IIRC) 1980. Wish I could find that again. Seemed remarkably prescient.

It was in Playboy (May 1983)

https://petapixel.com/2022/07/30/ansel-adamss-interview-with...

“There’s no end in sight. Electronic photography will soon be superior to anything we have now. The first advance will be the exploration of existing negatives. I believe the electronic process will enhance them. I could get superior prints from my negatives using electronics.

“Then the time will come when you will be able to make the entire photograph electronically. With the extremely high resolution and enormous control you can get from electronics, the results will be fantastic. I wish I were young again!”

Re: Ansel

#28

Post by renjimen »

Looks good, I'll give it a whirl. I could never figure out a good darktable workflow. The UI seemed all over the place with some basic features missing and way too bloated in certain areas that I imagine 99% of users would never touch. Hopefully Ansel has figured out a better feature balance and UI.

My current Linux photo processing tool is Another RawTherapee [1], which is a wonderful blend of the power of RawTherapee with a UI that has a lot of similarities to Lightroom.

[1] https://discuss.pixls.us/c/software/art/36

Re: Ansel

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Post by hurryer »

macintux wrote: post #24

Somewhere very recently I encountered a quote from Ansel Adams, in which he seemed to anticipate that "electronic" photos would be the next big thing, in (IIRC) 1980. Wish I could find that again. Seemed remarkably prescient.

In early 2000 a lot of photographers were saying that digital photography is not "real", it doesn't have a "soul", it should not be allowed in photo contests and it's just worthless in general.

Re: Ansel

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Post by zoklet-enjoyer »

chpatrick wrote: post #14
zoklet-enjoyer wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ansel Adams. Famous photographer

And well-known existing product name.

I never heard of it. After looking it up, I don't get the appeal. Not sure why someone would want to take fancy screenshots of video games unless they're marketing a game.
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