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NYT interviews former OpenAI CEO Sam Altman (11/20/23)

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Re: NYT interviews former OpenAI CEO Sam Altman (11/20/23)

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Post by ThePowerOfFuet »

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defrost wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Re: NYT interviews former OpenAI CEO Sam Altman (11/20/23)

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Post by reducesuffering »

> Sam Altman: I believe that this will be the most important and beneficial technology humanity has yet invented. And I also believe that if we’re not careful about it, it can be quite disastrous. And so we have to navigate it carefully.

Nice, what is that, only 25% chance we all encounter destruction instead? Everyone else want on this train? Oh, that's right, we don't have a choice, it's up to them.

Re: NYT interviews former OpenAI CEO Sam Altman (11/20/23)

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Post by mcmcmc »

LewisVerstappen wrote: post #9
mcmcmc wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very reassuring from the guy who got fired for lack of candor

...are you still been unable to realize that it was really just a politically motivated firing? The example of "lack of candor" that Ilya provided was "Altman was said to have given two people at OpenAI the same project." Hilarious how Hacker News is unable to understand that Ilya was just trying to grab power.

Ilya has is own pocketbook to worry about. The independent board members have a duty to the non-profit’s vision, mission, and ethical bounds. M$ needs how many board members to flip positions in order to put their ROI before all of that?

Re: NYT interviews former OpenAI CEO Sam Altman (11/20/23)

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Post by soupfordummies »

viewtransform wrote: post #18
defrost wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Re: NYT interviews former OpenAI CEO Sam Altman (11/20/23)

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Post by janalsncm »

mcmcmc wrote: post #7
moralestapia wrote: post #5

>Kevin Roose: The theory that I heard attached to this was that you are secretly an accelerationist, a person who wants A.I. to go as fast as possible, and that all this careful diplomacy that you’re doing and asking for regulation — this is really just the sort of polite face that you put on for society. But deep down you just think we should go all gas, no brakes toward the future. >Sam Altman: No, I certainly don’…

Very reassuring from the guy who got fired for lack of candor

If I were an employee at OpenAI now, I wouldn’t be particularly impressed with the rest of the board’s candor either.

Re: NYT interviews former OpenAI CEO Sam Altman (11/20/23)

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Post by 3cats-in-a-coat »

mcmcmc wrote: post #7
moralestapia wrote: post #5

>Kevin Roose: The theory that I heard attached to this was that you are secretly an accelerationist, a person who wants A.I. to go as fast as possible, and that all this careful diplomacy that you’re doing and asking for regulation — this is really just the sort of polite face that you put on for society. But deep down you just think we should go all gas, no brakes toward the future. >Sam Altman: No, I certainly don’…

Very reassuring from the guy who got fired for lack of candor

By that logic you can fire absolutely anyone at any time. No malfeasance, nothing illegal, nothing harmful, but they were like... totally planning to do something in the future despite saying otherwise! Boom, lack of candor!

Let's be serious. Because this board isn't.

Note I'm not "team Sam Altman". As most startup/yuppee CEOs, he's extroverted, superficially charming, but can be manipulative and use people as pawns in a game. All the traits unfortunately needed to attract talent and capital. Without these kinds of people, most companies wouldn't exist.

However there are different shades of gray. He's also a smart CEO who clearly led the company to success, saving it after assured bankruptcy when Elon Musk fled, and understands the product and his team. Alas, he didn't understand his board.

Re: NYT interviews former OpenAI CEO Sam Altman (11/20/23)

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Post by LewisVerstappen »

mcmcmc wrote: post #23
LewisVerstappen wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...are you still been unable to realize that it was really just a politically motivated firing? The example of "lack of candor" that Ilya provided was "Altman was said to have given two people at OpenAI the same project." Hilarious how Hacker News is unable to understand that Ilya was just trying to grab power.

Ilya has is own pocketbook to worry about. The independent board members have a duty to the non-profit’s vision, mission, and ethical bounds. M$ needs how many board members to flip positions in order to put their ROI before all of that?

A board can be power hungry as well.

Re: NYT interviews former OpenAI CEO Sam Altman (11/20/23)

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Post by j0hnyl »

reducesuffering wrote: post #22

> Sam Altman: I believe that this will be the most important and beneficial technology humanity has yet invented. And I also believe that if we’re not careful about it, it can be quite disastrous. And so we have to navigate it carefully. Nice, what is that, only 25% chance we all encounter destruction instead? Everyone else want on this train? Oh, that's right, we don't have a choice, it's up to them.

Technology only moves forward, you never have a choice about that. The choice is either to embrace it or not. At least OpenAI is building this under public scrutiny. How many firms or governments are building the same thing in the shadows? Hint: more than zero.
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