OMG, it is 12am in SF. I need to sleep. But what a play, MSFT the winner here. They now owns the actual OpenAI Edit: PM->am
Or they just acquired sales people
Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
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Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#22OMG, it is 12am in SF. I need to sleep. But what a play, MSFT the winner here. They now owns the actual OpenAI Edit: PM->am
Maybe lunch and a coffee could help?
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#23This actually seems like a decent compromise. Sam and Greg can retain velocity on the product side without having to spin up a whole new operation in direct competition with their old levers of power, and Ilya + co can remain in possession of the keys to the kingdom.
Ilya and co are going to get orphaned, there’s no point to the talent they have if they intend to slow things down so it’s not like they’ll remain competitive. The capacity that MSFT was going to sell to OpenAI will go to the internal team.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#24Anyone else find it strange that startup founders of the magnitude of Sam & Greg would join a gigantic corporation as employees? It sounds very out of line of what you'd expect.
> It sounds very out of line of what you'd expect.
Except if Sam and Greg have some anti-compete clauses. If they join MS, they have a nice 10 billion USD leverage against any lawsuites.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#25Did Microsoft just effectively acquire 100% of OpenAI without actually needing to cross the 49% regulatory hurdle? Depending on who follows them to MSFT, that might actually be the outcome here. And OpenAI is suddenly Xerox Parc.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#26Listen. I was confused when the whole thing was going down. I was more confused when the whole "board wants to backtrack and maybe resign" thing was going down. I got even more confused when Emmett Shear was announced as the CEO. ...but never in a hundred years would I have imagined "haha just join Microsoft" as an actual alternative. I remain, confused.
By joining Microsoft, they retain access to all the data, weights, and infrastructure they had at OpenAI. They don't have to start from scratch and ramp up. They can start up right where they left off.
Not only that, Microsoft in practice is OpenAI's customer. So somehow OpenAI will be working for them.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#27Sam and Greg obviously haven’t heard that Microsoft Research doesn’t get any GPU access (:
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#28Anyone else find it strange that startup founders of the magnitude of Sam & Greg would join a gigantic corporation as employees? It sounds very out of line of what you'd expect.
It certainly sounds out of line with all the reporting that Altman was talking about starting a new company and could trivially fundraise for it. Was that just as much kayfabe as the idea of bringing him back?
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#29This actually seems like a decent compromise. Sam and Greg can retain velocity on the product side without having to spin up a whole new operation in direct competition with their old levers of power, and Ilya + co can remain in possession of the keys to the kingdom.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but for me it is us framed as if they won't be working on GPT-based products, but on research.
The whole thing reads like this to me: "In hindsight, we should've done more due diligence before developing a hard dependency on an organization and its product. We are aware that this was a mistake. To combat this, we will do damage control and continue to work with OpenAI, while developing our in-house solution and ditching this hard dependency. Sam & Co. will reproduce this and it will be fully under our control. So rest assured dear investors."
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#30Anyone else find it strange that startup founders of the magnitude of Sam & Greg would join a gigantic corporation as employees? It sounds very out of line of what you'd expect.
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