Are those the first cracks in the AI market bubble?
Is it a bubble if it’s useful and I use it dozens of time a day?
Dotcom bubble...was/is the internet not useful?
Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI
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#23Are those the first cracks in the AI market bubble?
Is it a bubble if it’s useful and I use it dozens of time a day?
It can be useful in certain contexts, most certainly as a code co-pilot, but that and yours/others' usage doesn't change the fundamental mismatch between the limits of this tech and what Sam and others have hyped it up to do.
We've already trained it on all the data there is, it's not going to get "smarter" and it'll always lack true subjective understanding, so the overhype has been real, indeed to bubble levels as per OP.
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#24We need to know why he was let go. All else is speculation. I doubt people would follow Sam if he was let go for a good reason.
Unless they don't know the reason. (But of course, it's hard to imagine what reason could be so secret that it's better to let people start jumping ship than share it with employees.)
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#25As I said in the other thread, this is 100% a AI doomerist hijack.
Doomerism when it comes to technology has always been such a weird mindset to me. "oh no, they're gonna take the horses/horse buggies/telegram/landlines away!" "Goddamn, how dare they invent the bigger cannons!?" - Romans, 1453, in Constantinople probably. (One incident where I can use my exempt powers).
its not even that, they have literally one argument and its nanobots
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it a bubble if it’s useful and I use it dozens of time a day?
It can be useful in certain contexts, most certainly as a code co-pilot, but that and yours/others' usage doesn't change the fundamental mismatch between the limits of this tech and what Sam and others have hyped it up to do. We've already trained it on all the data there is, it's not going to get "smarter" and it'll always lack true subjective understanding, so the overhype has been real, indeed to bubble levels as…
> it's not going to get "smarter" and it'll always lack true subjective understanding
What is your basis for those claims? Especially the first one; I would think it's obvious that it will get smarter; the only questions are how much and how quickly. As far as subjective understanding, we're getting into the nature of consciousness territory, but if it can perform the same tasks, it doesn't really impact the value.
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#27Makes me wonder whether to keep building upon OpenAI? Given that they have an API and it takes effort to build on that vs. something else. I am small fry but maybe other people are wondering the same? Can they give reassurances about their products going into the future?
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it a bubble if it’s useful and I use it dozens of time a day?
I agree AI is useful, but not to that extent to what it is valued on the market. I do not think that AI companies can deliver as much as they promise. With the driving core at OpenAI basically gone, I bet they will soon implode under the weight of their promises. Which means, investors will start pulling out their stakes. boom
What's the use of a newborn baby?
AI is as real as the mobile/internet/pc revolution of the past.
So many use it obsessively every single day.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it a bubble if it’s useful and I use it dozens of time a day?
I agree AI is useful, but not to that extent to what it is valued on the market. I do not think that AI companies can deliver as much as they promise. With the driving core at OpenAI basically gone, I bet they will soon implode under the weight of their promises. Which means, investors will start pulling out their stakes. boom
I paid the 20 dollar subscription. I don't even subscribe to netflix.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it a bubble if it’s useful and I use it dozens of time a day?
It can be useful in certain contexts, most certainly as a code co-pilot, but that and yours/others' usage doesn't change the fundamental mismatch between the limits of this tech and what Sam and others have hyped it up to do. We've already trained it on all the data there is, it's not going to get "smarter" and it'll always lack true subjective understanding, so the overhype has been real, indeed to bubble levels as…
I would appreciate another example where a major new communications technology peaks in its implementation within the first year after it is introduced to the market.