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Google's advanced music generation model and two new AI experiments

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Re: Google's advanced music generation model and two new AI experiments

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is sarcasm right?

You don't think this will lower the barrier of entry for music creation?

NO, it will lower the barrier for music generation, which is different from CREATION, which implies a creative act.

Re: Google's advanced music generation model and two new AI experiments

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The moment quality in art becomes commodified, what is popular will select on something other than quality. Look what happened to visual art in the earliest 20th century. Any art academy graduate could give you a beautiful painting, but nobody remembers any artists from the 20th century who simply made "beautiful paintings"

Quality never was the only or even the most important aspect of popularity in music and probably art in general. So I'm not sure your projection is valid.

His projection is valid because it's not a qualitative problem, it's a quantitative one.

Music may already have been turned into a commodity selected by traits other than quality, but tools like this bring the effect up to a whole new level, a whole new order of magnitude.

Re: Google's advanced music generation model and two new AI experiments

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post #15

Wow, AI really will democratize music creating. This is an awesome way for people to translate their ideas to music without needing to be privileged enough to get violin or guitar lessons. I see a future where we all make our own music and share it freely with family and friends. This means less listening to manufactured pop songs written by suits with the sole aim of making a profit. This will still happen of course…

I'm sorry, but we've had the other option for hundreds of years. Playing an instrument or using your voice to make pleasant sounds isn't rocket science.

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Re: Google's advanced music generation model and two new AI experiments

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is sarcasm right?

You don't think this will lower the barrier of entry for music creation?

That's not the point that I find sarcastic, but whole rest of it. Yes it lowers the barrier of entry, don't think anyone can disagree with that.

Re: Google's advanced music generation model and two new AI experiments

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Yet another tool from Google that's closed. No model, no code, no real details. You can't even run the model today. Google continues to live in the darkest timeline when it comes to ai and ml.

Google is living the innovator dilemma on steroids at the moment because Google Search + ads are so profitable everything else is a second thought and Google does not even bother to release stuff that they are developing.

Re: Google's advanced music generation model and two new AI experiments

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Wow, AI really will democratize music creating. This is an awesome way for people to translate their ideas to music without needing to be privileged enough to get violin or guitar lessons. I see a future where we all make our own music and share it freely with family and friends. This means less listening to manufactured pop songs written by suits with the sole aim of making a profit. This will still happen of course…

What “privilege” is required to learn to play guitar? Was Jimmy Hendrix privileged? Robert Johnson?

Re: Google's advanced music generation model and two new AI experiments

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't think this will lower the barrier of entry for music creation?

NO, it will lower the barrier for music generation, which is different from CREATION, which implies a creative act.

I think you're looking at this wrong. If I have an idea for a song I my head, I could record myself humming or sining it. While it might represent a thought, feeling or experience it's not going to be very pleasant. With AI, I will be able to transform it into something enjoyable. That is creation and not just generation.

Re: Google's advanced music generation model and two new AI experiments

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Wow, AI really will democratize music creating. This is an awesome way for people to translate their ideas to music without needing to be privileged enough to get violin or guitar lessons. I see a future where we all make our own music and share it freely with family and friends. This means less listening to manufactured pop songs written by suits with the sole aim of making a profit. This will still happen of course…

This is sarcasm right?

It's not sarcasm. If you expand your short comment I can address it.

Re: Google's advanced music generation model and two new AI experiments

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The moment quality in art becomes commodified, what is popular will select on something other than quality. Look what happened to visual art in the earliest 20th century. Any art academy graduate could give you a beautiful painting, but nobody remembers any artists from the 20th century who simply made "beautiful paintings"

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Re: Google's advanced music generation model and two new AI experiments

#30

Wow, AI really will democratize music creating. This is an awesome way for people to translate their ideas to music without needing to be privileged enough to get violin or guitar lessons. I see a future where we all make our own music and share it freely with family and friends. This means less listening to manufactured pop songs written by suits with the sole aim of making a profit. This will still happen of course…

What “privilege” is required to learn to play guitar? Was Jimmy Hendrix privileged? Robert Johnson?

People get caught up in their lives.

There are a million things you _wanted_ to do that you'll never get to do. And that's unfair.

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