TrackPoint is cool, but happiness can only be reached on a proper ergo split keyboard without a huge space
HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint
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Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint
#22Sorry for being such a newbie, but I never understood why HHKB was popular, and where it got its fame. I saw my roomate already having it 10 years ago, I find cool the minimalist aspect, but why such keyboard with basic design made it so far ? Also, on a personal note, having a 65% keyboard now for 3 years, I'll go back to a 75% keyboard. I think functions keys and arrows are used way too frequently to spend your tim…
It doesn't make sense to lose the function keys, the more keys the better (though i'd argue that it's better for less frequently used functions where it's easier to remember spatial position while not wasting much by moving your hands), though for arrows it's definitely more comfortable to have home row arrow keys with some thumb prefix, you can even have up/downs by various distance (e.g., "jk" for arrow down/up, "m," for pageDown/Up, and maybe "ui" for some "up to home/down to end") so that your same down/up muscle memory in your same two fingers
Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint
#23TrackPoint is cool, but happiness can only be reached on a proper ergo split keyboard without a huge space
Yeah, I would love a keyboard like this except that I've now moved entirely to corne-ish zen. I wish I could have a corne-ish zen with a trackpoint, but I expect the people who would like that must be a tiny niche-within-a-niche.
Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would anyone need a capslock?
Elsewhere in the comments, someone said "I want dedicated keys for arrows / function keys, I use these frequently enough that I don't want to hold a modifier". Some programming languages type constants in UPPER_SNAKE_CASE. -- The same rationale applies: it's easy to understand why someone would prefer to avoid having to hold a modifier key for that. -- I quite like Caps Word as an improvement on CapsLock https://docs…
Besides the better caps word (by the way, you can have it in software in Win/Linux apps like https://github.com/jtroo/kanata/blob/main/docs/config.adoc#c...) you can also toggle capslock with e.g. a double tap while having on-hold functionality to the more useful Control, so you still wouldn't need to hold any modifier key
Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint
#25It really surprises me that the Happy Hacking Keyboard brand has stuck with their key layout. For a more conventional layout one might consider keychron. https://www.keychron.com/
Why would anyone need a capslock?
I largely use it to switch layers, eg. caps + hjkl turns into arrow keys
Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint
#26I'm a happy owner of a Tex Shinobi and Tex Shura. It's pretty hard to get a good trackpoint experience and Tex have done a good job getting right over the years (including producing a Lenovo-branded mechanical keyboard). They're a small shop based in Taiwan. Shura is $169. https://tex.com.tw/collections/keyboard
If you're in Japan, you can get,
https://archisite.co.jp/products/archiss/quattro/tkl-jp/
, for ~ 15000 円 ＝ $100.
Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint
#27Sorry for being such a newbie, but I never understood why HHKB was popular, and where it got its fame. I saw my roomate already having it 10 years ago, I find cool the minimalist aspect, but why such keyboard with basic design made it so far ? Also, on a personal note, having a 65% keyboard now for 3 years, I'll go back to a 75% keyboard. I think functions keys and arrows are used way too frequently to spend your tim…
HHKB fan here. When using macOS or Linux, I basically never use the function keys, and I find the arrow key shortcuts pleasant to use because they do not require me to move my hands from the home row. Another factor is that I use vim (and VScode with vim bindings) so I use the arrow keys less than usual. Add to that the high build quality, light weight, high quality switches which are not too loud for an office environment, and they are one of my favourite keyboard designs.
I will say that under Windows, or when playing games, the layout becomes problematic... but I use another keyboard for gaming anyway. As always, YMMV.
Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint
#28Surprised that they abandoned the signature Topre switches for this 'custom' HHKB switch.
Doubt if any of the keyboard-otakus will go for this esp. given the sheer variety of MX switches now.
Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint
#29I have always been a fan of the trackpoint. The Ultimate Hacking Keyboard is a split keyboard with trackpoint, trackball, and touchpad modules (choose one).
https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/shop
I am excited for the upcoming release of the dygma raise 2 because it has integrated 60 degree tenting in addition to being split. It has a module system as well which will hopefully offer trackpoint. https://dygma.com/pages/dygma-raise-2
I am happy using the NuPhy Air v2 as my portable keyboard. I love the low profile- not for looks, but for better ergonomics and portability. No track point though!
Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint
#30Surprised that they abandoned the signature Topre switches for this 'custom' HHKB switch. Doubt if any of the keyboard-otakus will go for this esp. given the sheer variety of MX switches now.
You need custom switches to go around trackpoint.
I had the same problem building my own custom keyboard. In the end, I opted to redesign the layout to have one key worth of space dedicated to the trackpoint. I was able to do this because I can learn a completely new layout on a whim, but if you want to produce a keyboard for mass market then I see how this could be a deal breaker.