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Feds Have No Idea How Many Times Cruise Driverless Cars Hit Pedestrians

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Re: Feds Have No Idea How Many Times Cruise Driverless Cars Hit Pedestrians

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public transit is the answer, not stuffing a bunch of sensors into a single car but nobody's getting venture capital for that, nobody's making a profit off of it, so here we are

> public transit is the answer

To which question? Surely not to "how do i get from home to work as fast as possible without stepping in the rain?" nor to "how do i take my family, two coolers, and a kayak camping for a weekend?"

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post #17

public transit is the answer, not stuffing a bunch of sensors into a single car but nobody's getting venture capital for that, nobody's making a profit off of it, so here we are

Why should venture capital be relevant to a non-commercial money-losing venture?

unsure if you've been around VCs but they certainly are involved in non-commercial money-losing ventures

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#23

public transit is the answer, not stuffing a bunch of sensors into a single car but nobody's getting venture capital for that, nobody's making a profit off of it, so here we are

Literally nothing about autonomous vehicles stops cities from improving public transit. BART predates Cruise by like 50 years, and it took them most of that time to get the noise below 100dB and add mobile payment support. Maybe in another 50 years we'll be able to get to all the cities with >100k people in the bay on it, if we're lucky.

Re: Feds Have No Idea How Many Times Cruise Driverless Cars Hit Pedestrians

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post #17

public transit is the answer, not stuffing a bunch of sensors into a single car but nobody's getting venture capital for that, nobody's making a profit off of it, so here we are

Why should venture capital be relevant to a non-commercial money-losing venture?

I'd say it's relevant as the investment in for-profit transit-as-tech companies has coincided with the chronic under-funding of public transit. Focusing on the US here, but if public transit was accepted as a public good, and the populace accepted that funding things for the public good was an acceptable use of government funds, then these companies wouldn't be as sound of an investment for VCs.

Re: Feds Have No Idea How Many Times Cruise Driverless Cars Hit Pedestrians

#25

public transit is the answer, not stuffing a bunch of sensors into a single car but nobody's getting venture capital for that, nobody's making a profit off of it, so here we are

Governments in the USA spend a ton of money on roads. If they could be convinced to spend some of it on buses, I think those bus companies could make a profit.

They'd have to use some sort of marketing trickery to obfuscate the fact that they were buses, because buses carry an undeserved stigma in the USA. But I think Silicon Valley is generally pretty good at repackaging old ideas to seem new.

As private vehicles increase in size and weight, the costs of road maintenance for private vehicles will continue to increase. As fuel/electricity costs increase, private vehicle ownership will continue to get more expensive. So the rewards for implementing this would only get better.

In some places trains are better than buses. Unfortunately in the USA the costs of private car ownership are mostly borne by local governments. So I think in the short term it will mostly have to be buses.

Re: Feds Have No Idea How Many Times Cruise Driverless Cars Hit Pedestrians

#26

public transit is the answer, not stuffing a bunch of sensors into a single car but nobody's getting venture capital for that, nobody's making a profit off of it, so here we are

> public transit is the answer To which question? Surely not to "how do i get from home to work as fast as possible without stepping in the rain?" nor to "how do i take my family, two coolers, and a kayak camping for a weekend?"

To the question "what is one of the windmills posters on Hacker News love to tilt at, as if everyone in the world lives in a downtown apartment?"

Re: Feds Have No Idea How Many Times Cruise Driverless Cars Hit Pedestrians

#27

public transit is the answer, not stuffing a bunch of sensors into a single car but nobody's getting venture capital for that, nobody's making a profit off of it, so here we are

> public transit is the answer To which question? Surely not to "how do i get from home to work as fast as possible without stepping in the rain?" nor to "how do i take my family, two coolers, and a kayak camping for a weekend?"

The kayak can be rented on the other end of your train journey.

Re: Feds Have No Idea How Many Times Cruise Driverless Cars Hit Pedestrians

#28

public transit is the answer, not stuffing a bunch of sensors into a single car but nobody's getting venture capital for that, nobody's making a profit off of it, so here we are

> public transit is the answer To which question? Surely not to "how do i get from home to work as fast as possible without stepping in the rain?" nor to "how do i take my family, two coolers, and a kayak camping for a weekend?"

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Re: Feds Have No Idea How Many Times Cruise Driverless Cars Hit Pedestrians

#29

public transit is the answer, not stuffing a bunch of sensors into a single car but nobody's getting venture capital for that, nobody's making a profit off of it, so here we are

Everyone will not live in urban centers and there will never be public transportation to every possible destination.
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