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Yes, Ubuntu is withholding security patches for some software

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Re: Yes, Ubuntu is withholding security patches for some software

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IIRC, you can still add those repos. The PPA system just makes it a little easier to add them.

Can you explain how better? A link to an example maybe

https://vitux.com/how-to-add-ppa-repositories-in-debian/

Re: Yes, Ubuntu is withholding security patches for some software

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I'm so confused. When I install an LTS version with a Universe package like ffmpeg, does everything continue getting security patches for the full five-year LTS life? Or do I now need Ubuntu Pro to get the full five years?

Just stop using Ubuntu. It's bullshit with shit governance run by crazy people.

For servers, CentOS is reliable as fuck.

Re: Yes, Ubuntu is withholding security patches for some software

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Except it doesn't really have PPAs ... which limits outside contribution and is a huge downside

What is the advantage of PPAs over an apt repo that users place in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/someexternalapp? Is it having a central site that users can search for packages? Basically a social portal?

Having an automated per-user publishing pipeline for packages is a non trivial endeavour.

These days you can get close with github-actions style pieplines and releases, but the PPA system has always been a more complete platform in terms of dependency management.

You can get close with some debian tooling (im a fan of sbuild), but it's some overhead to deal with.

Re: Yes, Ubuntu is withholding security patches for some software

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This is why I tell everyone to avoid the psychos at Canonical and use either CentOS 9 Stream, Fedora, or Debian.

Didnt CentOS...go away or am I confusing it with another distro?

centos used to be 1:1 clone of rhel sans branding, ibm replaced it with rolling release 'centos stream' upstream of rhel

now we have 'rocky linux' taking the place of old downstream centos as 1:1 bug-for-bug rhel compatible (against ibm's wishes)

and 'almalinux' building a stable release on top of centos stream (ibm seems to be ok with)

Re: Yes, Ubuntu is withholding security patches for some software

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Didnt CentOS...go away or am I confusing it with another distro?

centos used to be 1:1 clone of rhel sans branding, ibm replaced it with rolling release 'centos stream' upstream of rhel now we have 'rocky linux' taking the place of old downstream centos as 1:1 bug-for-bug rhel compatible (against ibm's wishes) and 'almalinux' building a stable release on top of centos stream (ibm seems to be ok with)

Thanks for posting the details. I'll check out Rocky and Alma.

Re: Yes, Ubuntu is withholding security patches for some software

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Debian is looking better and better.

Except it doesn't really have PPAs ... which limits outside contribution and is a huge downside

Agreed. I'd love to switch to Debian, but the lack of PPAs makes it difficult.

Also Debian is always much further behind than Ubuntu on new packages.

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