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Re: Show HN: Interactive AI Resume/LinkedIn for better networking/job hunting

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Problem remains if the model "hallucinates" and makes information up. For example, it says candidate is a Lisp expert and later, turns out not.

If even it happens some 10 percent of the time, it'll get a reputation for being unreliable and would lead to "oh, why waste time, I better ask the candidate directly" situations.

But other than that, it's a very creative idea. Really. 10 out of 10.

EDIT: Idea is great nevertheless.

Re: Show HN: Interactive AI Resume/LinkedIn for better networking/job hunting

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post #21

Problem remains if the model "hallucinates" and makes information up. For example, it says candidate is a Lisp expert and later, turns out not. If even it happens some 10 percent of the time, it'll get a reputation for being unreliable and would lead to "oh, why waste time, I better ask the candidate directly" situations. But other than that, it's a very creative idea. Really. 10 out of 10. EDIT: Idea is great nevert…

Yeah that was REALLY finicky to get right. I have a few ways to prevent hallucinations and I haven't gotten any in the latest iteration even with really crazy questions being asked. (I encourage you to try to break it).

This is partly why I show the source Snippets (Q/A Pairs written directly by the owner) below the summary as a way to verify the information. Kind of like the AI 'showing it's work. It also let's see more about the owner which is a nice side benefit, or maybe the main benefit.

I can also turn off the AI summary part and leave the AI search part. If this becomes a bigger thing, I might give users a way to enable/disable the potentially hallucinogenic part, but it'll be their choice.

Re: Show HN: Interactive AI Resume/LinkedIn for better networking/job hunting

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right now I have it set up so you can import your resume and it generates what I call 'Snippets'. They're kind of like mini Q/A pairs about your career (which you can see as sources below when you ask a question). This does two things: 1) Provide the information exactly as the person has written it 2) Make it easy for you to incrementally add little bits about your career as you think of them or as they come in Quest…

Thanks for detailed answer. Wondering if: 1. we build this as browser extension for LinkedIn profile page 2. Or ask people to input their LinkedIn profile page, Twitter handle, GitHub etc & interactively answer questions. I see this as a tool for recruiters & hiring managers. Great!

I'm sticking to just URLs for now because they can go anywhere but eventually if it actually becomes a bigger thing, I'd make it easy to integrate into anything (extensions, iframes to put on your personal website, etc).

Also, does anyone else find it ironic that we put LinkedIn links onto our resumes even though it's usually older/more out of date/emptier than the resume. My dream is that a link to your AI profile is on your resume, LinkedIn, etc instead. Give people a way to dig deeper instead of just circularly referencing things.

And yes, doing integrations to your twitter, github, LinkedIn, etc is something I was thinking about too. That being said, you as a candidate might not want all that searchable. I certainly don't. I wanted more control about what was said about me when asked certain questions so I went the import, edit, add route with Snippets (which are like Q/A pair tweets about your career).

Re: Show HN: Interactive AI Resume/LinkedIn for better networking/job hunting

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Hey I launched Leet Resumes on HN a couple years ago - love what you’re doing with this. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25678568

The biggest challenge you’ll find is not getting the info OUT to the reader / recruiter / hiring manager, but getting the information IN to your system. You’ll start with the resume, but most people don’t put enough about their specific achievements and accomplishments in their resume in the first place.

As we write great professional resumes for free, we needed a fast, scalable way to get more info from each user.

We’ve used AI to help us ask better questions (“As a front-end engineer did you ever have to scale by 10x or orders of magnitude? What did you do and what worked well?”) so that we could get better answers and turn it into better information.

Will the Chat UI replace reading linear text? At our sister company Ladders, we rather famously ran the study that led to the factoid that recruiters look at your resume for six seconds on first pass. For a while, people were touting video as a replacement for resumes, but the challenge always ended up being that people can read/scan at far, far greater rate of speed than they can listen. I guess we will see the same trade-off preference development with Chat, but time will tell.

Overall, great innovation and clever use of the new tech.

Re: Show HN: Interactive AI Resume/LinkedIn for better networking/job hunting

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Hey I launched Leet Resumes on HN a couple years ago - love what you’re doing with this. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25678568 The biggest challenge you’ll find is not getting the info OUT to the reader / recruiter / hiring manager, but getting the information IN to your system. You’ll start with the resume, but most people don’t put enough about their specific achievements and accomplishments in their resume…

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Re: Show HN: Interactive AI Resume/LinkedIn for better networking/job hunting

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FYI. Here is an image of the no-code AI profile build tool: https://imgur.com/a/YKQ902P You don't need to mess with training data or training times. The AI is built up from things called Snippets (think of them as mini interview tweets about your career) that you can add one at a time. Import tools to generate Snippets include Resume/Auto-biography/Blog-post. These will generate Q/A pair Snippets which you can edit/a…

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Re: Show HN: Interactive AI Resume/LinkedIn for better networking/job hunting

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Great callout. I don't actually see this replacing LinkedIn profiles or resumes, more like an add-on so you can figure out more about a person. Example: "Proficient in C++", that's about as much as you get from a resume. But what projects did I use C++ in? What tooling did I use? Did it ship in a product? Better yet, the interactive profile should say 'yes, they worked on C++ on these projects, here's a link to the s…

It's very similar to how the entertainment industry works. A director can specify a broad range of qualifications and search an actor database for potential matching candidates. The biggest issues I see are: - getting candidates to put their data in, you can't really rely on scraping because a résumé doesn't provide enough information, and your hallucination quantity will go up - getting critical mass of users, so th…

I think OP has solved some of those issues with this approach. Initially, this is a fun tool that provides value to individuals. The result at scale becomes extremely valuable. The biggest missing piece is verification of skillset. I'm not sure how to solve that. Current employers? Motivated to keep their top performers and little incentive to engage early on. Peers are easy to game and are susceptible to generative AI for automation. You would almost need to integrate some kind of in person meeting for verification. Establish known experts and have them review and verify, then feed that into employer feedback after hiring for a sort of credit system. Employers using the rating system would themselves need to be monitored and policed.

Re: Show HN: Interactive AI Resume/LinkedIn for better networking/job hunting

#28

Hey I launched Leet Resumes on HN a couple years ago - love what you’re doing with this. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25678568 The biggest challenge you’ll find is not getting the info OUT to the reader / recruiter / hiring manager, but getting the information IN to your system. You’ll start with the resume, but most people don’t put enough about their specific achievements and accomplishments in their resume…

Thanks, yeah! I agree. The import tools was one of the biggest things I had to work on recently.

I needed to balance import everything with no user input (which is prone to hallucinations and doesn't give you an idea of how the AI will answer about you) and asking the user to do too much.

I landed on a halfway point kind of like writing little blurbs about your career that you can add on incrementally. Unlike retraining an AI, you can just add incremental bits.

So the current form is import resume/blog post/etc which generates questions and answer pairs called 'Snippets'. You can add more detail since the resume is usually pretty vague, then officially add these Snippets to your AI.

Once people ask you questions, if there is an answer, it'll use those blurbs. If there is no information yet, it'll say so. You will see all the questions asked of your AI so you can incrementally add Snippets on your Monday night or whatever based on what people had asked your AI profile.

I might change it, but this seems like a good balance between automation, giving you control, and making it incrementally updatable.

Btw, it's all zero-latency, if you make a change, it basically takes immediate effect on your AI. This was an important property to me.

Re: Show HN: Interactive AI Resume/LinkedIn for better networking/job hunting

#29
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great callout. I don't actually see this replacing LinkedIn profiles or resumes, more like an add-on so you can figure out more about a person. Example: "Proficient in C++", that's about as much as you get from a resume. But what projects did I use C++ in? What tooling did I use? Did it ship in a product? Better yet, the interactive profile should say 'yes, they worked on C++ on these projects, here's a link to the s…

It's very similar to how the entertainment industry works. A director can specify a broad range of qualifications and search an actor database for potential matching candidates. The biggest issues I see are: - getting candidates to put their data in, you can't really rely on scraping because a résumé doesn't provide enough information, and your hallucination quantity will go up - getting critical mass of users, so th…

Dealing with hallucinations was really finicky. I think I have a way to prevent that now though and ultimately give you control. 'Document search' style things always hallucinated for me so I needed something else. I made another comment on dealing with that but let me know if you have more questions.

The critical mass of users was a weird one to think about yeah. I had two choices, go with breadth first tools (e.g. recruiter tools), or depth first tools (e.g. individual tools to 'market yourself' or just network). I went with the latter first because it would provide value to a single person, just like how my test profile here is providing value to me right now; I didn't want to have to rely on critical mass.

Re: Show HN: Interactive AI Resume/LinkedIn for better networking/job hunting

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's very similar to how the entertainment industry works. A director can specify a broad range of qualifications and search an actor database for potential matching candidates. The biggest issues I see are: - getting candidates to put their data in, you can't really rely on scraping because a résumé doesn't provide enough information, and your hallucination quantity will go up - getting critical mass of users, so th…

I think OP has solved some of those issues with this approach. Initially, this is a fun tool that provides value to individuals. The result at scale becomes extremely valuable. The biggest missing piece is verification of skillset. I'm not sure how to solve that. Current employers? Motivated to keep their top performers and little incentive to engage early on. Peers are easy to game and are susceptible to generative…

This was a fun one to think about. The secret is in where this link is posted. I was thinking through domain name verification and realized that if employers trust LinkedIn, and you can put this link onto your LinkedIn, it inherits that trust.

So basically, if you link it on your resume/LinkedIn, then the consumer of your AI profile should be able to have the same base level of trust in it.

As for the candidate themselves lying, well, you can always do that. In this case, you can actually verify it better than just having to trust a candidate in the moment in an interview. I see these interactive profiles as a way to actually build more trust and credibility between people by giving everyone more to cross-reference.

The candidate gets to be remembered and have the details of their skills and accomplishments shown, the employers get to select with more precision and make valuable interview time even more value dense by having a better/more informed starting point.

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