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Americans are confused, frustrated by new tipping culture, study finds

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Re: Americans are confused, frustrated by new tipping culture, study finds

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Post by proc0 »

autoexec wrote: post #20
proc0 wrote: post #15

What's so complicated? If you don't want to tip, don't tip. If there are repercussions, that's their business, stop supporting them.

People shouldn't have to be harassed by companies constantly begging them to subsidize their labor expenses and customers shouldn't have to worry that they're getting bad service (or worse) in retaliation for hitting the "No Tip" button. I'm sure as hell not tipping for counter service or for retail transactions, but they keep begging for it. As more and more people fall for the scam there's a risk that it will becom…

Yeah but it amounts to bad service, and typically this aren't essential services that can't be replaced. If everyone does this then they should adjust accordingly or just go out of business.

Re: Americans are confused, frustrated by new tipping culture, study finds

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Post by angryasian »

pempem wrote: post #7
brianmorris10 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A) everyone stops tipping across the board B) businesses have to start paying their staff better wages

I think the order here is B. then A. Historically we haven't see it go the other way

In Los Angeles servers are minimum wage which is like $17 an hour plus tips. A & B is best

Re: Americans are confused, frustrated by new tipping culture, study finds

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Post by egberts1 »

It is very simple: moment I see prompt for tipping on the register after I picked out something, carried it to the register and rang it up myself, is that moment I am going to leave everything behind and head on to the next store.

Tipping is for OPTIONALLY AFTER the work/service was performed: period.

Re: Americans are confused, frustrated by new tipping culture, study finds

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Post by evulhotdog »

evulhotdog wrote: post #10
pinewurst wrote: post #2

https://archive.vn/Nmk3g

I continue to get the recaptcha loop on most of these archive links. Does anybody have any workarounds when using CloudFlare’s DNS?

See this comment, which explains why it happens and resolutions, which are all workarounds: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38235283

Re: Americans are confused, frustrated by new tipping culture, study finds

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Post by pempem »

ickelbawd wrote: post #13
pempem wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the order here is B. then A. Historically we haven't see it go the other way

Where have you seen it go from B to A successfully? Several states already have mandatory minimum wage laws that apply to waitstaff. The local culture of tipping still expects you to tip these people—I’ve had countless arguments with people about this to no effect. They don’t tip the minimum wage worker bagging their groceries, but by god you had better leave a tip for your server or else you are a horrible person.

Have you ever discussed that the minimum wage for waitstaff is called the tipped wage, and can + does differ in multiple states from the minimum wage for other work? Here's a very objective source for a simple topic:

Tipped employees must receive a minimum wage of $2.13 per hour, known as a cash wage. That cash wage is combined with tips to reach the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. Employers can credit up to $5.12 per hour in tips against a worker's earnings. If an employee’s wages (at least $2.13 per hour) plus tips is less than $7.25 per hour, their employer is required to make up the difference. Tips are considered a “tip credit,” which allows employers to pay employees below the federal minimum wage.

The minimum wage in PA was 2.25 for waitstaff in 2000. Currently its 7.25/hr. I think we can all agree that waiting on a table is a little more complex than bagging groceries esp when you consider this wage law applies to any restaurant in any category.

https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/finance/tipped-minimum-wa...

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