https://solara.dev/ not working right now is all I need to know.
We wrote the OpenAI Wanderlust app in pure Python using Solara
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Re: We wrote the OpenAI Wanderlust app in pure Python using Solara
#22Solara is a fantastic project! The user experience is excellent, and I can quickly get ideas up and running. Solara can potentially become the framework for shipping ML/AI apps. We (Ploomber) have been working with the team to help their community easily deploy applications in our cloud platform: https://docs.cloud.ploomber.io/en/latest/apps/solara.html
It sounds cool, but I'm cautious. The solara site, powered by solara, is insanely slow to load, has text running off the page and interactivity that's either broken or slow enough it may as well be.
Is it much more of a project for tools used by one or two end users? How have you found it?
Re: We wrote the OpenAI Wanderlust app in pure Python using Solara
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
My dream is to have a real AI-powered travel agent that would do all the discovery stuff per my constraints and selections and then book reservations (where needed) for anything. The AI agent would fill out all the necessary online forms or make calls and collect confirmations. Then it would present me with my itinerary which I can ask it to change at any time.
But how much are you willing to pay for this service? because it's not like human travel agents don't exist today, just like human drivers exist today. Does having an AI book the tickets for you meaningfully change the things for you, the customer?
>Does having an AI book the tickets for you meaningfully change the things for you, the customer?
Of course it does. You don't think replacing humans in the full service travel industry wouldn't drive down costs and upgrade capabilities and experience could be a thing?
Re: We wrote the OpenAI Wanderlust app in pure Python using Solara
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
My dream is to have a real AI-powered travel agent that would do all the discovery stuff per my constraints and selections and then book reservations (where needed) for anything. The AI agent would fill out all the necessary online forms or make calls and collect confirmations. Then it would present me with my itinerary which I can ask it to change at any time.
I’m curious what are you thinking the advantages of using an AI only agent for this? For example, compared to Anywhere.com, where human experts are the agents.
I just took a look at it. Seems to focus only on a handful of international spots plus now it's asking me to book a 30 minute meeting with someone. I don't mind filling in preferences and whatnot, but once you introduce a human to the mix I feel like i'm at the whim and mercy of that 1 person with their skillset, communication ability, attitude, business motivations, etc.
Re: We wrote the OpenAI Wanderlust app in pure Python using Solara
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
My dream is to have a real AI-powered travel agent that would do all the discovery stuff per my constraints and selections and then book reservations (where needed) for anything. The AI agent would fill out all the necessary online forms or make calls and collect confirmations. Then it would present me with my itinerary which I can ask it to change at any time.
These days I purposefully avoid as much travel research as possible, and intently choose to immerse in the place and moment instead. I'm happy to miss that 4.97 stars dinner place, and instead enjoy interacting with a less-than-Instagram-perfect dinner & perhaps some flesh-and-bones human company.
I'm not sure this dichotomy isn't false. I can enjoy the best restaurants a city has to offer without Instagram having anything to do with it, and research doesn't preclude me from having flesh-and-bones company. There may be a good argument for not doing research, but I don't think these are it.
Re: We wrote the OpenAI Wanderlust app in pure Python using Solara
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m curious what are you thinking the advantages of using an AI only agent for this? For example, compared to Anywhere.com, where human experts are the agents.
I just took a look at it. Seems to focus only on a handful of international spots plus now it's asking me to book a 30 minute meeting with someone. I don't mind filling in preferences and whatnot, but once you introduce a human to the mix I feel like i'm at the whim and mercy of that 1 person with their skillset, communication ability, attitude, business motivations, etc.
I did a bit more research. Seems they make their money from tours and hotels they work with which typically leads to shittier value for the customer.
I want my ai to have as little financial incentive for itself and only maximize my needs. I'd pay for THAT.
Re: We wrote the OpenAI Wanderlust app in pure Python using Solara
#27Hm, the demo video is less enticing than I expected. What takes two full sentences, delayed responses, two map renders... is less than a single keyword search in the Google Maps UI with autocomplete ("martini tower " and then selecting "martini tower groningen"). And, in addition, Google Maps UI shows a lot of additional information instantly.
Not a criticism of this repo, but presentation is important in order to attract potential users.
Re: We wrote the OpenAI Wanderlust app in pure Python using Solara
#28I was a bit surprised about their choice of example app. With tour guide/info you need to be re-assured the information you're giving is correct. But asking LLM's to write it for you is a recipe for hallucinations. I built Summer AI to do audio tour guides using old fashioned web scraping and then piping the output through LLM's just to summarize and even then use a couple of extra steps to ensure factual accuracy. D…
Was this with GPT-4?
I used it to plan a summer European trip to 17 cities and didn't notice any hallucinations for what must have been 20 hours of back and forth creating itineraries, day trips, etc.
Did not use it as my only source of info, still watched some videos by Rick Steeves and Wolter's World, but it far and away was the most efficient part of the planning process for me.
Re: We wrote the OpenAI Wanderlust app in pure Python using Solara
#29We (the authors of the Solara web app framework) were inspired by the OpenAI keynote Wanderlust app they demoed and rebuilt it in Python using Solara. It would be good to showcase our framework's power and inspire others to build UI's with AI/LLM elements in it. GitHub: https://github.com/widgetti/wanderlust App: https://huggingface.co/spaces/solara-dev/wanderlust X: https://twitter.com/maartenbreddels/status/1722324…
Did you also use help from LLMs in coding this app instead of just coding it all by hand? Just curious.
I am finding myself reaching for GPT4 more often to spin up POC apps.
You could fine-tune a coding assistant on your library and good quality example apps with documentation ... and that might take the ease of churning out new demos and apps to the next level?
Re: We wrote the OpenAI Wanderlust app in pure Python using Solara
#30I was a bit surprised about their choice of example app. With tour guide/info you need to be re-assured the information you're giving is correct. But asking LLM's to write it for you is a recipe for hallucinations. I built Summer AI to do audio tour guides using old fashioned web scraping and then piping the output through LLM's just to summarize and even then use a couple of extra steps to ensure factual accuracy. D…
Was this with GPT-4? I used it to plan a summer European trip to 17 cities and didn't notice any hallucinations for what must have been 20 hours of back and forth creating itineraries, day trips, etc. Did not use it as my only source of info, still watched some videos by Rick Steeves and Wolter's World, but it far and away was the most efficient part of the planning process for me.
Yes gpt 4. I was fact checking and using places I knew pretty well and would find the occasional error when asking it to describe cities etc and what to do.
Well for itineraries, given that its training data gets cut off at some point, I’d also be worried about it recommending places that are no longer open.
Note that I’m building an app for customers and attempting to build a brand that can be trusted - whereas in your case gpt 4 is probably ideal given you know it’s caveats and can check the important stuff.