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Re: Men's Shed

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Post by Gigachad »

justinclift wrote: post #13
peebeebee wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I'd start a non-profit organisation, I could ask the government for grants probably. Maybe start a system where people could lend their devices to the space, so they could earn some money on them long term. Depending of the initial cost of a device, I'd pay 10EUR-20EUR every time I'd use a special device. 10% of the profit goes to the makerspace, 90% to the device-lender. With 50-100 uses, you'd start making money…

Most of the cost for running Makerspaces seems to go towards rent, at least here in Australia. :( --- On that note, if anyone knows of good potential locations for a large Makerspace in Brisbane, Australia... "Hackerspace Brisbane" (HSBNE) is looking for a new home: https://www.facebook.com/HSBNE/posts/pfbid0iAakLGAK39h8qDA7N...

Seems to be a bit of a problem where in low rent areas, people would just have a shed with all the tools, but in high density areas where you’d most want it, the rent is going to be highest.

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Post by DeWilde »

incompatible wrote: post #18

I've always wondered why they need to be so sexist. Is it so terrible to have women around? But not so long ago, I saw an article about women trying to open a similar shed but finding there was a funding program which was specifically only able to men's sheds. I'm surprised they can get away with it. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-21/huon-she-shed-project... "While the local men's shed welcomes women, Ms Reardon…

Why would it be sexist to have men's only spaces for the purposes of men's mental health?

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Post by incompatible »

DeWilde wrote: post #22
incompatible wrote: post #18

I've always wondered why they need to be so sexist. Is it so terrible to have women around? But not so long ago, I saw an article about women trying to open a similar shed but finding there was a funding program which was specifically only able to men's sheds. I'm surprised they can get away with it. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-21/huon-she-shed-project... "While the local men's shed welcomes women, Ms Reardon…

Why would it be sexist to have men's only spaces for the purposes of men's mental health?

If it's good for men's mental health, wouldn't it be good for women's mental health too? I just don't see how using a community workshop is related to gender.

Re: Men's Shed

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Post by thriftwy »

throw932490 wrote: post #20
justinclift wrote: post #15

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Where's the insult? Honestly asking, as I'm not understanding where there's an insult in any of it.

Disparity in gender based spending. If woman is in trouble, she gets hotline, accommodation and all sort of services for free. If men is in trouble, he can build furniture!

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Re: Men's Shed

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Post by justinclift »

throw932490 wrote: post #20
justinclift wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where's the insult? Honestly asking, as I'm not understanding where there's an insult in any of it.

Disparity in gender based spending. If woman is in trouble, she gets hotline, accommodation and all sort of services for free. If men is in trouble, he can build furniture!

Ahhh yeah. That I agree with. Mens Shed's themselves aren't insulting, it's just the extremely unbalanced treatment of the sexes which has led to their need.

Re: Men's Shed

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Post by justinclift »

Gigachad wrote: post #21
justinclift wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the cost for running Makerspaces seems to go towards rent, at least here in Australia. :( --- On that note, if anyone knows of good potential locations for a large Makerspace in Brisbane, Australia... "Hackerspace Brisbane" (HSBNE) is looking for a new home: https://www.facebook.com/HSBNE/posts/pfbid0iAakLGAK39h8qDA7N...

Seems to be a bit of a problem where in low rent areas, people would just have a shed with all the tools, but in high density areas where you’d most want it, the rent is going to be highest.

Yeah, fully agree.

Re: Men's Shed

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Post by DeWilde »

incompatible wrote: post #23
DeWilde wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would it be sexist to have men's only spaces for the purposes of men's mental health?

If it's good for men's mental health, wouldn't it be good for women's mental health too? I just don't see how using a community workshop is related to gender.

That is true, such spots should exist as well.

But the point of the men-only ones is to allow men to socialize with other men and talk about problems that affect them only or problems they don't feel comfortable talking about in a mixed setting.

Re: Men's Shed

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Post by throw932490 »

thriftwy wrote: post #24
throw932490 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disparity in gender based spending. If woman is in trouble, she gets hotline, accommodation and all sort of services for free. If men is in trouble, he can build furniture!

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That is just not true.

Old men also face all those things. But they are not allowed to leave abusive relationship, for cost of alimony and child support. There is no charity for someone, who on paper owns house and makes 100k (but lives in his car).

"Giving up too early" is just an excuse for this systemic abuse!

Re: Men's Shed

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Post by incompatible »

throw932490 wrote: post #19
incompatible wrote: post #18

I've always wondered why they need to be so sexist. Is it so terrible to have women around? But not so long ago, I saw an article about women trying to open a similar shed but finding there was a funding program which was specifically only able to men's sheds. I'm surprised they can get away with it. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-21/huon-she-shed-project... "While the local men's shed welcomes women, Ms Reardon…

Women are not allowed there because they are violent and abusive! Compare money that goes towards women's only shelters, organizations and charities. With money spend on those "sheds". Even dog shelters have better funding!

Domestic abuse is a real thing, I can understand the need for women's shelters.

Re: Men's Shed

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Post by gemminye »

incompatible wrote: post #18

I've always wondered why they need to be so sexist. Is it so terrible to have women around? But not so long ago, I saw an article about women trying to open a similar shed but finding there was a funding program which was specifically only able to men's sheds. I'm surprised they can get away with it. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-21/huon-she-shed-project... "While the local men's shed welcomes women, Ms Reardon…

>I've always wondered why they need to be so sexist. Is it so terrible to have women around?

I dunno, maybe ask the woman you quoted:

"While the local men's shed welcomes women, Ms Reardon said there were many women who wanted their own space.

"People like me that would feel intimidated going into what would traditionally be a man's space … want to learn with other women," she said."

The women themselves don't want to be around men because men are so horrible apparently.

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