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Establishment of the U.S. Artificial Intelligence Safety Institute

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Re: Establishment of the U.S. Artificial Intelligence Safety Institute

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Post by qualifiedai »

jprete wrote: post #14
gustavus wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure China and Russia and Iran and all those other nations will 100% see the value of artificially restricting their AI efforts as well because of the risk of harm, and be socially responsible global citizens, that won't exploit this edge for thier own geopolitical agenda.

China’s government is extremely interested in restricting their AI efforts because they don’t want it to contradict the Communist party.

But they are doing it in a way that do not hinder their fundamentals - they are enforcing that on alignment (see Baichuan2-chat) and application levels.

Unlike Biden's silly EO which puts restrictions on foundation model compute levels.

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Post by cscurmudgeon »

AlexandrB wrote: post #17
WestCoastJustin wrote: post #4

Great way to understand how all this works is watching All-In Summit: Bill Gurley presents 2,851 Miles[1]. Basically, regulate your competition into the ground. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9cO3-MLHOM

Great way to understand how all this works is listening to Behind the Bastards: The Deadliest Workplace Disaster in U.S. History[1]. Basically, don't regulate anything until a bunch of poor people die. [1] https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236... Edit: To elaborate, it's pretty easy to cherry-pick cases of either over and under regulation and use that to "prove" either side of the argument. The…

Ok, can we restrict all trade and place sanctions against nations that don’t restrict AI like we do?

Re: Establishment of the U.S. Artificial Intelligence Safety Institute

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Post by qualifiedai »

az09mugen wrote: post #10
qualifiedai wrote: post #2

Let's shoot US innovation and leadership in the foot by establishing random limits on foundation model research. According to EO's guidelines on commpute, something like GPT4 probably falls under reporting guidelines. Also, in the last 10 years GPU compute capabilities grew 1000x. What will be happening even 2 or 5 years from now? Edit: yes, regulations are necessary but we should regulate applications of AI, not fun…

You write it like there is litteraly 0 risk. Are you aware there are some malicious deviations already possible with AI ? Edit : Totally agree with qualifiedai's edit

The risk of AI, is much smaller than the risk of computer graphics or social media.

My point is that applications of AI must be regulated, not fundamental research.

Re: Establishment of the U.S. Artificial Intelligence Safety Institute

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Post by jadamson »

lordleft wrote: post #12

Alarming how many people think that the development of AI should have…no government oversight? Are none of you familiar with history?

Useless comment without explaining what particular events in history you think are relevant. Are you familiar with how to make an argument? Read any books lately?

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Post by startupsfail »

jprete wrote: post #14
gustavus wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure China and Russia and Iran and all those other nations will 100% see the value of artificially restricting their AI efforts as well because of the risk of harm, and be socially responsible global citizens, that won't exploit this edge for thier own geopolitical agenda.

China’s government is extremely interested in restricting their AI efforts because they don’t want it to contradict the Communist party.

The party is under the authority of its ‘forever’ president Xi Jingping, a good friend of another dully elected president - Putin.

And the interest is: “whatever is on the mind of an aging, non-elected dictator and his favorites”.

Re: Establishment of the U.S. Artificial Intelligence Safety Institute

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Post by vsareto »

gustavus wrote: post #9
vsareto wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Better than companies doing their own thing and not having any restrictions or oversight at all. Remember that those companies will get rid of some portion of their workers as soon as they think an AI can do most of that work. Heck, they did layoffs and started hiring again without any advancements. You can't trust companies to self-regulate.

I'm sure China and Russia and Iran and all those other nations will 100% see the value of artificially restricting their AI efforts as well because of the risk of harm, and be socially responsible global citizens, that won't exploit this edge for thier own geopolitical agenda.

I doubt any military or strategically important applications will be regulated

Re: Establishment of the U.S. Artificial Intelligence Safety Institute

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Post by _jal »

andrewmutz wrote: post #16

> Specifically, USAISI will facilitate the development of standards for safety, security, and testing of AI models, develop standards for authenticating AI-generated content, and provide testing environments for researchers to evaluate emerging AI risks and address known impacts. I have been afraid of over-regulation of AI but standards and testing environments don't sound so bad. It does not sound like they are impl…

> It does not sound like they are implementing legal regulations that will protect incumbents at the expense of AI innovation, at least at this point.

Give them a minute, an agency needs to exist before it can be captured. There hasn't been time yet for a single revolving-door hire.

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Post by gustavus »

__loam wrote: post #20
jprete wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China’s government is extremely interested in restricting their AI efforts because they don’t want it to contradict the Communist party.

Yeah people bringing up China as if it's some bastion of freedom in comparison to us are hilarious.

Soviet man and American man were arguing about which country was more free.

The American man said "I am so free I could walk up to the White house right now and scream 'I hate Ronald Reagan he is an incompetent buffoon.' Without getting arrested."

The Russian man responded "That is not any more free than me I too could walk up to the Kremlin and scream 'I hate Ronald Reagan he is an incompetent buffoon.' without getting in any trouble."

Re: Establishment of the U.S. Artificial Intelligence Safety Institute

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Post by qualifiedai »

__loam wrote: post #18
qualifiedai wrote: post #2

Let's shoot US innovation and leadership in the foot by establishing random limits on foundation model research. According to EO's guidelines on commpute, something like GPT4 probably falls under reporting guidelines. Also, in the last 10 years GPU compute capabilities grew 1000x. What will be happening even 2 or 5 years from now? Edit: yes, regulations are necessary but we should regulate applications of AI, not fun…

US leadership was literally asking for this.

US leadership seems clueless and they just fell for regulatory capture.

Regulate AI applications, not fundamental research in it.

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