I'd like a way for phones to know if the headset that is connected is a speaker set, IEMs, bone conduction, etc. The "Volume is too loud" notification is annoying when I'm using my regular speaker set and WANT the volume cranked so I can hear it across the house, and doubly-annoying when I'm using bone conduction headphones as they need to be at an appreciable volume for you to hear them well.
Fixing the volume on my Bluetooth earbuds
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Re: Fixing the volume on my Bluetooth earbuds
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t think the OS knows how many dB’s come out of the other end. My Boses act differently with different Bluetooth chipsets. On Linux I have to do 150% volume to hear much of anything
The computer knows what it's sending to Bluetooth and it knows some model identifiers from Bluetooth. This could be implemented well. But I agree, it probably isn't.
It'd have to set up their own audiolab and produce a long list of models and what the output levels are per volume setting. OTOH, these things should be standardized.
Re: Fixing the volume on my Bluetooth earbuds
#23I love this stuff. All of a sudden this model of earphones is quite interesting to me.
Side note: The system sounds a bluetooth device makes are among the strongest differentiating factors (with some being completely awful; see https://youtu.be/J2wPsH64JEM). Yet I have never seen a review or product page which tells you about what sound (which you will have to hear multiple times per day, with no way to opt out!) the product will make.
The ability to change them also seems like a pretty easy differentiator.
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#24Why do the earbuds have the sound files in mp3 format rather than some raw uncompressed format? Doesn't this mean that the earbuds must now have a mp3 decoder?
Is there a resource-usage argument for preferring mp3?
Re: Fixing the volume on my Bluetooth earbuds
#25I kept a pair of Tozo T6's in my pocket for several years. Honestly... buy better buds. You don't even have to spend more money. I haven't touched my Tozos since I got a pair of Comfobuds Mini.
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#26Man I wish someone would do this for my bluetooth sleep mask. It's pretty great except for one thing: When the battery is low or it's going to power off it announces it to you at full volume. On a sleep mask.
That's actually pretty funny. I imagine you were very pissed off when you first discovered that one.
I had a similarly flawed one. I had an alarm clock which had a MSF radio sync thing built in. But every time it resync'ed with the MSF time signal it'd make the same sound as the alarm for 2-3 seconds. You couldn't turn it off. This was invariably at 3AM or some horrible time. I eventually opened it up and cut the MSF antenna out and slept better knowing the clock was always slightly wrong.
Re: Fixing the volume on my Bluetooth earbuds
#27I love this stuff. All of a sudden this model of earphones is quite interesting to me. Side note: The system sounds a bluetooth device makes are among the strongest differentiating factors (with some being completely awful; see https://youtu.be/J2wPsH64JEM ). Yet I have never seen a review or product page which tells you about what sound (which you will have to hear multiple times per day, with no way to opt out!) th…
I really wish I could turn down the play/pause beep on my aftershokz. It's perfect in a loud shop with earplugs in. Sitting in a quiet office with my music down low to concentrate, it's uncomfortable and startling. I don't understand why the system sounds don't respond to the volume level.
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#28NICE! Way to stick with it OP! Speaking of loud earbuds, I might have the opposite problem. I use Bose exercise earbuds on the treadmill at what I believe is a comfortable and conservative volume, but my iPhone gives me a notification that the volume is too high and I am wrecking my hearing. Is the phone correct? If so, I'd be willing to sacrifice a bit of enjoyment for a bit of ear health. However, there's a compell…
> I want to commend Apple if they did the right thing and built a database mapping (model,volume_setting)->physical_volume
Even if they did, it would be out of date the moment it shipped.
But no, there's no reason to believe they'd do anything like that. It would be interesting if headphone manufacturers reported the dB range when connecting with Bluetooth to enable something like that, but I've never heard of such a thing. (That is an area where Bluetooth could enable something like that, in a way that the 3.5mm jack couldn't.)
Re: Fixing the volume on my Bluetooth earbuds
#29NICE! Way to stick with it OP! Speaking of loud earbuds, I might have the opposite problem. I use Bose exercise earbuds on the treadmill at what I believe is a comfortable and conservative volume, but my iPhone gives me a notification that the volume is too high and I am wrecking my hearing. Is the phone correct? If so, I'd be willing to sacrifice a bit of enjoyment for a bit of ear health. However, there's a compell…
I miss exactly two things from android on iOS. Both involve Bluetooth not sucking. The first one is that the minimum volume on my Bluetooth earbuds is too damn loud on iOS. This is true for every third party set of headphones I have tried. People have been complaining about this online for a decade. The EU even passed a law to make them fix it (spoiler alert: it did not work). FFS, min volume in the UI should map to…
> The first one is that the minimum volume on my Bluetooth earbuds is too damn loud on iOS. This is true for every third party set of headphones I have tried.
That's wild. I've never experienced anything like that -- not with AirPods or Bose or a cheap brand TOZO.
Are you sure it's not a problem with the earbuds themselves, that their minimum level is higher than it should be?
If you've dug into it, what is the range/steps of Bluetooth volume levels, and which are the range/steps that iOS supports?
Also, have you ever tried dragging the volume slider in iOS? That lets you set volume smoothly, not restricted to increments. Does that not let you set the smallest volume?
Re: Fixing the volume on my Bluetooth earbuds
#30NICE! Way to stick with it OP! Speaking of loud earbuds, I might have the opposite problem. I use Bose exercise earbuds on the treadmill at what I believe is a comfortable and conservative volume, but my iPhone gives me a notification that the volume is too high and I am wrecking my hearing. Is the phone correct? If so, I'd be willing to sacrifice a bit of enjoyment for a bit of ear health. However, there's a compell…
> I want to commend Apple if they did the right thing and built a database mapping (model,volume_setting)->physical_volume Even if they did, it would be out of date the moment it shipped. But no, there's no reason to believe they'd do anything like that. It would be interesting if headphone manufacturers reported the dB range when connecting with Bluetooth to enable something like that, but I've never heard of such a…
Software updates aren't just for distributing first party malware, you know -- they could also conceivably be used to update a device database. We have the technology.
This is probably an "all of the above" situation. Implement on AirPods and push for a standard and make measurements of popular old models and have a fallback that assumes industry averages. On the scale of Apple, this is not much to ask.