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Matter 1.2 – New device types and improvements

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Re: Matter 1.2 – New device types and improvements

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Post by pkulak »

alwillis wrote: post #2

There’s now support for robot vacuums, which is a big deal.

First Matter vacuum gets my business! I just bought a Matter thermostat on a whim (incentives took the price down to $10) and I'm really impressed. It integrated into Home Assistant in seconds after I scanned a QR code and now the local control is instant and flawless. My last thermostat could only integrate using a really complicated cloud auth process and commands only made it all the way to wherever and back to my house some of the time, and never in under a few seconds.

Yes, Zigbee and ZWave have already done the work that Matter is attempting, but they both conflate the networking architecture with the API. We really do need a pure API that can work over WiFi, or anything else.

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Post by riedel »

MaKey wrote: post #19
PurpleRamen wrote: post #15

As I remember, Matter is using blockchain for doing something with their certifications. Does anyone know more about this? What they do there and whether this legitimate usage or just some case of buzzword-bingo?

Here you go: https://matter-smarthome.de/en/benefits/benefits-of-matter-4...

Also: https://github.com/zigbee-alliance/distributed-compliance-le...

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Post by yetihehe »

MisterBiggs wrote: post #6

In hindsight it makes sense but I never would have guessed that device types are hard coded by the protocol.

It makes perfect sense, otherwise you end up with devices like "light", "lamp" and "bulb" which could all have the same functionality, but all require different implementations because manufacturers could not communicate between themselves.

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Post by dheera »

adocomplete wrote: post #3

Step in the right direction, but I wonder what's taking so long on getting support for cameras. That's my biggest use case at the moment. Having a bunch of Nest cameras that don't natively incorporate with HomeKit and having to do all sorts of work arounds to get a still generally crappy experience is killing my excitement for the smart home. And I won't buy new ones until they support Matter and there is true intero…

Also I have no idea why I couldn't pair Matter devices using just my computer. Home Assistant wanted me to use a mobile app to do the pairing. No thanks. I shouldn't need to use a phone at home, phone is for outside, at home I use BIG computers and BIG screens to do everything.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

MaKey wrote: post #19
PurpleRamen wrote: post #15

As I remember, Matter is using blockchain for doing something with their certifications. Does anyone know more about this? What they do there and whether this legitimate usage or just some case of buzzword-bingo?

Here you go: https://matter-smarthome.de/en/benefits/benefits-of-matter-4...

As I understand it, there is no tradable token, it’s literally just a shared database.

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Post by supergeek133 »

brigade wrote: post #11
malfist wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably the same reason video is always hard, there's 7 million codecs. Might also be privacy

I seriously doubt there’s a single camera supporting Apple/Google/Amazon integration that doesn’t support H.264 plus AAC

Even between Google and Amazon you have different streaming support (Amazon is RTSPS, Google is WebRTC)

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Post by supergeek133 »

varun_chopra wrote: post #5

Does anyone know if Matter is being embraced by companies working on home automation products? I'm in India and it seems that the ecosystem is really garbage -- some devices work with Alexa, some with Google, and very little work with _all_ major providers (and I'm an Apple user). Is it better in other countries?

For some products it is a horsepower/memory problem, depending on the device you're building.

If you work for traditional thermostat company that happens to also build connected ones, adding Matter on top of other things required a lot of memory and microcontroller improvements that we just didn't have the space for previously. Especially when half your company does nothing but drive cost out of the BOM.

So, it's net new product.

Now a security panel on the other hand should be a little easier.. the modern ones are basically linux boxes.

Re: Matter 1.2 – New device types and improvements

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Post by rcdemski »

wil421 wrote: post #10
adocomplete wrote: post #3

Step in the right direction, but I wonder what's taking so long on getting support for cameras. That's my biggest use case at the moment. Having a bunch of Nest cameras that don't natively incorporate with HomeKit and having to do all sorts of work arounds to get a still generally crappy experience is killing my excitement for the smart home. And I won't buy new ones until they support Matter and there is true intero…

Does Homebridge not have a plug in for Nest? The one for Unifi cameras is just ok and takes forever to load an image. The doorbell notification is better than the camera experience.

For Unifi cameras I switched from Homebridge to Scrypted. The streams load near instant when on the same network. All around a much more polished experience.
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