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Gnome Foundation Welcomes Holly Million as Executive Director

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Re: Gnome Foundation Welcomes Holly Million as Executive Director

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Looking at the qualifications and past experience of this pick I am starting to wonder what exactly was the rationale behind this? The only work history listed in her resume is as a consultant, and as "Holly Million the Shaman Artist". This will be interesting to say the least.

Her name sounds like something out of a William Gibson novel, for one.

Can she at least have razor blades under her fingernails?

Re: Gnome Foundation Welcomes Holly Million as Executive Director

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Looking at the qualifications and past experience of this pick I am starting to wonder what exactly was the rationale behind this? The only work history listed in her resume is as a consultant, and as "Holly Million the Shaman Artist". This will be interesting to say the least.

Looks like her Shamanism business is a side gig. I see her listed as a VP on another non-profit website[0], so I guess she actually does have a track record of non-profit management. It don't think it's entirely unusual for people to have side gigs, especially when they're in management consultancy. I have a C-suite sister-in-law who is also a Reiki practitioner.

[0]: https://dignitymoves.org/team/holly-million/

Re: Gnome Foundation Welcomes Holly Million as Executive Director

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Finally someone to blame for GTK4 and Gnome Shell!

>> Finally someone to blame for GTK4 and Gnome Shell! Having looked at moving from GTK3 to 4, I can understand the frustration. I also read a bunch of stuff and have concluded there are good reasons for the disruption, from making things more generic which allows new combinations of widgets (like images in menus) to allowing stuff to be in a different process. That does not mean the migration or support for doing it…

I’d say that another major feature is that the maintainer of the toolkit is not interested in making sure the open-source version receives as narrow a use as possible. (The current maintainers of Gtk also did a fairly good job ensuring that, but at least it wasn’t an overt goal...) That ugh feeling from Qt, along with being forced to deal with C++ if I want to dive into the system, is the primary reason I haven’t switched to KDE, despite liking both their UX philosophy and their view of their place in the ecosystem[1] much more.

[1] https://youtu.be/IFGXVN9dZ8U (I don’t think there’s a text version, sorry)

Re: Gnome Foundation Welcomes Holly Million as Executive Director

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Gonna be another Mozilla, it seems?

I know it is cool to hate on Mitchell Baker here. Lack of qualifications is not a valid criticism. She has a law degree from Berkley. Passed the California bar exam in '87. Was a high ranking lawyer in Netscape as their first legal hire. Designed the Mozilla Public License. Created the Mozilla Foundation. She has been in executive roles for 20-30 years.

Yes. Mitchell Baker had every top job at Mozilla from 1999 to 2008. She was the Mozilla project's general manager, Mozilla Foundation's 1st president, and Mozilla Corporation's 1st CEO. She could be the wrong CEO for Mozilla now. But it couldn't be for inexperience.

Re: Gnome Foundation Welcomes Holly Million as Executive Director

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What about it do you find silly and/or excessive?

You need a code of conduct to tell you to not be violent?

We don't but it's bizarre that when told to not be violent, your first thought is "wow this is excessive".

Re: Gnome Foundation Welcomes Holly Million as Executive Director

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Huh. This is an incredibly generic announcement. If "GNOME Foundation" were replaced by "Gates Foundation" or "National Endowment for the Arts" it would still make sense. It had never occurred to me that open-source foundations might become non-profits first and foremost, with the actual work that they do more of a "backend" concern, but that seems to me to be the case. Not that there's anything wrong with that, and indeed non-profits might be forced into this narrow style of existence by laws and regulations. But it makes me worry that there might be a disconnect between the people running the non-profit and the actual users of the project. This is a "Linus Torvalds uses a macbook" moment, for me.

That all said, congrats to the GNOME Foundation and Holly, and I hope you accomplish whatever good deeds you set out to.

Re: Gnome Foundation Welcomes Holly Million as Executive Director

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post #11

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Gonna be another Mozilla, it seems?

I know it is cool to hate on Mitchell Baker here. Lack of qualifications is not a valid criticism. She has a law degree from Berkley. Passed the California bar exam in '87. Was a high ranking lawyer in Netscape as their first legal hire. Designed the Mozilla Public License. Created the Mozilla Foundation. She has been in executive roles for 20-30 years.

Who said anything about qualifications? She is a terrible CEO because she knows nothing about web browsers, and clearly couldn't care less about her companies products. Why would anyone ever make a lawyer a CEO of anything except a law firm? It's a self evidently terrible idea and the results are exactly what you'd expect.

Re: Gnome Foundation Welcomes Holly Million as Executive Director

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post #25

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You need a code of conduct to tell you to not be violent?

We don't but it's bizarre that when told to not be violent, your first thought is "wow this is excessive".

I'm already told that by the biggest code of conduct of all- the law.

Re: Gnome Foundation Welcomes Holly Million as Executive Director

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What about it do you find silly and/or excessive?

The "Safety versus Comfort" section indicates they do not intend to apply the above sections above fairly.

I am having a hard time digesting that section too:

> "Reverse"-isms, including "reverse racism," "reverse sexism," and "cisphobia" ... The examples listed above are not against the Code of Conduct.

That in itself is a little 'wow'.

> Basic expectations for conduct are not covered by the "reverse-ism clause" and would be enforced irrespective of the demographics of those involved. For example, racial discrimination will not be tolerated, irrespective of the race of those involved.

At first I was confused by this, but now I get it, and still wow. "You're allowed to be racist/sexist, towards white people/cisgendered, just don't actually discriminate against them".

"Safety vs Comfort". Huh.

"It's more important that people be/feel safe than you feel comfortable" - I agree.

But if you need "cisphobia" and "reverse racism" to feel safe, then this is hugely problematic.

Honestly, I actually am somewhat shocked that this isn't more controversial.

Re: Gnome Foundation Welcomes Holly Million as Executive Director

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We don't but it's bizarre that when told to not be violent, your first thought is "wow this is excessive".

I'm already told that by the biggest code of conduct of all- the law.

It will be useful to have their own laws when GUADEC will hold on a cruiseship in international waters /s
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