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Piped – An alternative privacy-friendly YouTube front end

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Re: Piped – An alternative privacy-friendly YouTube front end

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Post by mariusor »

yard2010 wrote: post #16

I have to say that the crypto space is doomed and nobody cares about decentralization, but the technology behind it enables doing exactly this: 1 backend and many different clients. IMO this is the future - breaking monopolies with separation of powers a la John Locke

How is this related to crypto currencies in any way?

Any web API can allow multiple clients so I'm a bit lost at why you're so excited about this.

Re: Piped – An alternative privacy-friendly YouTube front end

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Post by themoonisachees »

yard2010 wrote: post #16

I have to say that the crypto space is doomed and nobody cares about decentralization, but the technology behind it enables doing exactly this: 1 backend and many different clients. IMO this is the future - breaking monopolies with separation of powers a la John Locke

People care about decentralization, they don't care about projects that are thinly veiled attempts at extracting money from them under the promise of decentralization

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Post by JacobSeated »

The privacy argument is extremely important, also in regards to avoiding tracking via ads, but I do not think bypassing or blocking ads is the way forward. In the free democratic world, we really should aim to do better than this, and instead try to actually develop privacy respecting alternatives that is not going to undermine the internet, further empower the big players, or hurt website owners unnecessarily – including Google/YouTube.

The obvious problem with such tools is that it may allow bypassing YouTube's ad-wall, and as a website owner I can see why that is problematic. It is bad enough that local GDPR interpretations can practically prevent website owners from monetizing their websites via interest based ads.

For YouTube it probably does not matter as much it would to smaller sites and bloggers, but it is still a violation of their TOS. So, if you want ad-free, consider simply paying.

Besides, I am personally not too worried what Google might be using my data for. Thankfully, Google is owned by a US-based company – I would be more worried if the company was placed in China, Russia, or any other country that does not care about freedom rights at all.

Of course, there is always the risk of data-leaks, and that's a valid point – but then why do we tolerate that the government has data on us!? That's even worse than a company tracking us!!

Re: Piped – An alternative privacy-friendly YouTube front end

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Post by chiefalchemist »

If this is too off-topic please just ignore it (and don't DV).

I want to embed YT videos on a website, but we would like them to be as private as possible. For example, DDG has a player which shields the watcher from YT's data hoovering.

Any suggestions? Perhaps the search terms I'm using are wrong?

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Post by acdha »

chiefalchemist wrote: post #25

If this is too off-topic please just ignore it (and don't DV). I want to embed YT videos on a website, but we would like them to be as private as possible. For example, DDG has a player which shields the watcher from YT's data hoovering. Any suggestions? Perhaps the search terms I'm using are wrong?

In that situation I’d favor self-hosting - it’s easy, friendlier for users, and unless you’re getting a huge amount of traffic not very expensive. Swimming upstream against YouTube’s business model is just locking in time spent worrying about what you missed.

Re: Piped – An alternative privacy-friendly YouTube front end

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Post by ugjka »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #13
crtasm wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering how many viewers they have using televisions/set top boxes/streaming usb sticks that will never get an update, do you see that happening any time soon?

These won't be supported forever

You'd be surprised, I had some old Symbian phone with some really ancient Youtube app and it still was working couple years ago. The phone's screen eventually died, so I can't check now

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Post by cubefox »

JacobSeated wrote: post #24

The privacy argument is extremely important, also in regards to avoiding tracking via ads, but I do not think bypassing or blocking ads is the way forward. In the free democratic world, we really should aim to do better than this, and instead try to actually develop privacy respecting alternatives that is not going to undermine the internet, further empower the big players, or hurt website owners unnecessarily – incl…

Blocking ads is also a perfect example of a Kantian non-universalizable maxim.

Re: Piped – An alternative privacy-friendly YouTube front end

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Post by prmoustache »

mikece wrote: post #26

With a name like "Piped" I wonder if it's related to the NewPipe app, one of my favorite apps on Graphene OS and something that I really wish existed on iOS.

Both are simply related to "tube" without having to use a word that would make them target of the youtube trademark holder.
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