The way the redundancies were carried out were very disrespectful. People got invited to a meeting and essentially told "You'll lose access in about 30 minutes" -- from a close source who was laid off after literally receiving feedback that they were the most efficient in their department a couple days prior.
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#22How do you mess up where your product value is massively derived by unpaid volunteers?
Many ways, for instance you could ask Reddit for advice :-)
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#24“Stack overflow did not elaborate” A year after a major hiring push? Guessing it’s the “save money by ridding ourselves of expertise” workflow: 1) hire a bunch of fresh blood who are willing to work long hours for no money for some reason 2) get them trained up 3) lay off the expensive senior people 4) lol ceo big bonus
If the fresh blood can do the same job as the seniors but for less money then why wouldn't you do this?
> If the fresh blood can do the same job as the seniors but for less money then why wouldn't you do this?
Brain Drain, it's a real phenomena that has real economic impact on a surrounding locality, local economy, and state economies.
Brain Drain affects companies as well, but by the time they notice Brain Drain has occurred, it's too late to rectify.
Hiring for bottom dollar, instead of experience, will increase the the outflow, decrease supporting services in the area, and decrease the available pool of potential employees.
It's a cycle that once begun is almost impossible to stop, even with legislation.
Here's what our Federal Government, and several States have done to discourage the BD effect.
> https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/republicans/2019...
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#25How do you mess up where your product value is massively derived by unpaid volunteers?
I blame the unpaid volunteers to some extent. Sometimes they're overly rude, not always, but we've all seen it. You never have that problem with AI. You can ask all the questions you want and it will at least try to answer them.
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#26“Stack overflow did not elaborate” A year after a major hiring push? Guessing it’s the “save money by ridding ourselves of expertise” workflow: 1) hire a bunch of fresh blood who are willing to work long hours for no money for some reason 2) get them trained up 3) lay off the expensive senior people 4) lol ceo big bonus
I think you vastly overestimate the level of planning and forethought that the average management is capable of.
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#27How do you mess up where your product value is massively derived by unpaid volunteers?
I blame the unpaid volunteers to some extent. Sometimes they're overly rude, not always, but we've all seen it. You never have that problem with AI. You can ask all the questions you want and it will at least try to answer them.
The moderation policies that lead to this are the product of SO's management.
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#28I'm not surprised. These days, I use SO a lot less often. Github issues, first party documentation, Discords, and Copilot are much better ways to get help.
SO is under serious threat from Reddit.
Look at your Google results, that are now presenting Reddit much more prominently than a few years ago.
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#29How do you mess up where your product value is massively derived by unpaid volunteers?
I was under the impression that they were trying to shift their value into selling that enterprise version.
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#30I was really thinking they’d be able to train a high quality coding model and connect it back to the community better than anyone since it’s their platform & data.
The source is open in the internet. Everyone can train with the SO-data.