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Margaret Atwood Reviews a Margaret Atwood Story by AI

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Re: Margaret Atwood Reviews a Margaret Atwood Story by AI

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Are there any turnkey engines designed to run locally which can be trained on your own data? I've been itching to put my work into one, just to see what the results might be.

Llama 2 and various derivatives as the model. Get quantized models from https://huggingface.co/TheBloke

Oobabooga text-generation-webui for the server.

In the interface, use ExLlama for GPU inference (fast; for smaller models which fit in VRAM). Llama.cpp for large models (higher fidelity but slower), CPU+GPU.

13B parameter 4-bit quantized model (type 'GPTQ") can fit in a 12GB RTX 3060. 24GB card (e.g. a 3090) needed for 30B model on GPU. Something like 5-10 tokens/sec.

Can run 65 or 70B parameter models on CPU (e.g i7 12700) with 64GB RAM (also need decent GPU as above). Around 1 token/sec. These models are type "GGML" / "GGUF".

Long prompts take a long time for initial ingestion on CPU+GPU, much faster on GPU only.

Llama.cpp also apparently runs very well on Apple silicon, with the shared memory between CPU and GPU being well-suited.

Re: Margaret Atwood Reviews a Margaret Atwood Story by AI

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That criticism reminds me articles/videos where professional musicians critise some famous hit songs. Musicians sometimes can comment that guitar is ahead of drums or vocal doesn't hit notes quite well. The things that I as not musician doesn't hear at all. And this is also common topic in their reviews, that one should write music for audience, not for other musicians. I'm not native speaker and many weirdnesses of…

I find your reaction intriguing since I had nearly the opposite reaction. Especially when it comes to the second piece I had little to critique about it technically (maybe a little from a structural standpoint but not as much grammatically), but I found it incredibly dull due to its complete lack of any real point. With your musical analogy, it felt to me like a piece where all of the instruments were played perfectl…

Agree. This reminds me of a kid's school assignment, which sounds impressive, but really misses the point. A kid with no real writing talent or experience given this same prompt would also cargo cult some uncohesive drivel like this.

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That criticism reminds me articles/videos where professional musicians critise some famous hit songs. Musicians sometimes can comment that guitar is ahead of drums or vocal doesn't hit notes quite well. The things that I as not musician doesn't hear at all. And this is also common topic in their reviews, that one should write music for audience, not for other musicians. I'm not native speaker and many weirdnesses of…

Even if there weren’t stylistic and logical problems with the story, I don’t think I’d be terribly interested in reading it. Fundamentally, literature is about communication with other people, living in another person’s mental world or understanding their unique perspective. It’s not really clear to me what human value an LLM generated story has. It’s a statistically probable sequence of tokens generated from the dis…

There's a segment of generative AI proponents who, on a fundamental level, genuinely do not understand art. All art is communication, and without humanity it is meaningless.

LLMs are really cool for creative brainstorming and stuff like that, as a tool for inspiration, but I am baffled by the idea that anyone is interested in entire AI-generated works.

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I'm quite impressed with "The Weeping Willows of Winnipeg", I'm happy to commend ChatGPT on it more than Atwood does. Sure, Atwood is an acclaimed professional, but hey, I've written dystopian short stories worse than that! Although mine probably involved less plagiarism than ChatGPT's.

I found myself unable to read the whole thing. I'm not sure exactly why, but it was a tedious task to keep reading it, so I skipped past the last half to Atwood's commentary.

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> So sleep well tonight, dear authors. Your vocation is safe from the pod people. At least for now. hahah "Pod People"... is that what SV residents are now?

Not that far off from the truth: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37638563

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I don't know anything about poetry but I do know you have to put some effort into a prompt and iterate to get anything useful out. Here are some interesting results from literally feeding this article and prompting chatgpt to improve the poem and take into account her critique. They seem at least to my eyes a little better. =========================================================== Upon these shores, where time seem…

It's still doggerel. The rhymes are forced and the syntax stilted. The praise is vapid and lacks any sort of insight.

It reads like a college fight song. I'm good with replacing college fight song writers with a computer.

Re: Margaret Atwood Reviews a Margaret Atwood Story by AI

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I'm quite impressed with "The Weeping Willows of Winnipeg", I'm happy to commend ChatGPT on it more than Atwood does. Sure, Atwood is an acclaimed professional, but hey, I've written dystopian short stories worse than that! Although mine probably involved less plagiarism than ChatGPT's.

> I've written dystopian short stories worse than that!

Is your name Roger? Sub-question: do you have any nieces or nephews?

Re: Margaret Atwood Reviews a Margaret Atwood Story by AI

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> So sleep well tonight, dear authors. Your vocation is safe from the pod people. At least for now. hahah "Pod People"... is that what SV residents are now?

It is a callback to the first paragraph in the article, where Atwood makes a reference to the movie Invasion of the Body Snatchers, in which an alien race breeds clones meant to replace people in society.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077745/

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